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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:03 pm    Post subject: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

Back in early june this year I recieved a lead on a 1950 beetle thru the grape vine. At first the project looked like a lot to take on for my restoration shop, which is currently full, but after a couple weeks of thought I ended up making a deal with its current owner.

After driving 2100 km and getting an enclosed trailer to keep prying eyes from seeing it, the car came home and now the work begins...

At the moment I am having difficulty reading the VIN number on the tunnel, since it is very faded on some numbers. Depending on how you intrepet it, it is either a December 1949 or August 1950 beetle. Does anyone have any suggestions for making that clearer to read before I pay for a birth certificate?

The Beetle in question is far from complete, all I have is the original Pan, body, doors and am missing everything else.

Any help/advice would be much appreciated!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

The vin is stamped, so it shouldn't fade. But a trick I've used is to make an etching of the stamped vin with pencil and paper. Cleaning with wire wheel or brush is usually a good starting point also
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

Ultramoron wrote:
The vin is stamped, so it shouldn't fade. But a trick I've used is to make an etching of the stamped vin with pencil and paper. Cleaning with wire wheel or brush is usually a good starting point also


I was worried that the wire wheel would be aggressive on the vin. Would Vinegar or Lemon juice work also the clean it up?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

Let's see a picture or two of the tunnel around the ebrake/ shifter/heater/choke area. There are differences that could determine which it is.

Also the body number if it's a split body,

Also the frame number if you can see that.


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The raised plate has the VIN and the other number is the frame number.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

well the body is august of 50.

so assuming they match (which they probably do) then august of 50 sounds about right.

pretty uncommon for a split to be swapped onto another split pan, obviously a very long time ago.

pan looks like 0189xxx? Both very late august of 50
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

Agree, August 1950 for the pan and body. Definitely not a later 49
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

Thank you Sled and nlorntson for confirming that.

Next challenge is finding the parts.

I am missing:
Steering column
Dash Clock
Speedo Surround
Rear Fenders
Hood
Pope's Nose
Tail Lights
All seats
Need a Donor Front beam
Need crash box transmission gears
Window Winders
Door pulls
Interior light glass
16" rims
25hp engine.
bumper mounting brackets (front and rear)
bumpers
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

Good luck..


Be ready to open your wallet and let the Franklin faces fly.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

sled wrote:
Good luck..


Be ready to open your wallet and let the Franklin faces fly.


Besides Franklins, I also accept currency featuring Grover Cleveland & William McKinley
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

sled wrote:
Good luck..


Be ready to open your wallet and let the Franklin faces fly.


You mean Canadian funny money, which is worth less than franklin?

yep, I already figured that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:51 am    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

sled wrote:
Good luck..


Be ready to open your wallet and let the Franklin faces fly.


He will need to make QEII's rain...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

Nice find Christopher, can't wait to see it in the Victoria show or at the Great Canadian!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

bwaz wrote:
Nice find Christopher, can't wait to see it in the Victoria show or at the Great Canadian!

thanks Bwaz; Depending on how long it takes to find the parts will determine when it will be on the road again.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

I did order the birth certificate last night, but on the website they said it could take as long as 5 months to receive it. Maybe by then it might roll?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 9:24 am    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

When I emailed them directly before, they were able to give me the info on an email... once I had already paid, and the certificate would be coming...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:23 am    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

Hi Chris,

Great find!

Where does 2100km take you? North to the Cariboo? or East to the Kootenay's.. just curious where I should be looking Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

HerrLowlight wrote:
Hi Chris,

Great find!

Where does 2100km take you? North to the Cariboo? or East to the Kootenay's.. just curious where I should be looking Wink

Trevor


If you are looking for parts, i'd try online first. I don't know where the beetle was found but I drove to Alberta to pick it up.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

Can we see some pics of this car?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Canadian Found 1950 Beetle Build Reply with quote

Bruce wrote:
Can we see some pics of this car?

How about two
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