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Goshen Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: My first Manx type Dune Buggy... a Deal of a Lifetime.. |
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The motor parts are all in and just waiting to get down to business and build the motor.. i think there is still one part we are waiting for so in the meantime i decided to work on the Exhaust system... you will love what i found...
Looking over the exhaust systems i thought of not using the standard exhausts most people use with actually are not good performers and not enough back pressure for the motor.. so it is best to go with a 4 into 1 collector.
This is what i had in there which is just about what you see everyone have.
Initially i thought this following unit would go nicely with its upward 2" exhaust stinger
and my thought was to have a baffle silencer and a flapper
But then there is the issue of water getting in it and the noise would be a bit much... so then now is Plan B
This Empi Stainless Steel Exhaust is about $350.00+ which is up there in price
So i was chatting with an Aussie on facebook last week and he suggested using Hayabusa mufflers but that would require making a custom 3 bolt flange and it would take away from the aesthetics of my dune buggy..
So i decided on getting the Empi 3462 Comp Exhaust, 1-1/2" w/ U-Bend 2" OD Stinger in Chrome for $138.00
Attach a 2" OD M2 Performance Stainless Steet Muffler and curved tip outlet on Ebay for $55.00 Free Shipping
The 2 " chrome clamp is only $12.99 FREE SHIPPING
So my total for this quieter exhaust system is $205.99
Here is the video of a friend who has this same setup
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_________________ My '64 Pan Meyers Manx Dune Buggy "Lady in Red"
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=659260
My '67 Split Window Bus project :
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=634144
My '67 Maserati Blue Oceano Bug Build:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541870
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Goshen Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:19 am Post subject: Re: My first Manx type Dune Buggy... a Deal of a Lifetime.. |
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This 1st week of September before i go on Vacation to Vegas i tackled the engine case... I will post a pic and then the explanation as to why.. something i did not know before but it makes a lot of sense..
I want to share something that i think should be a sticky.
Engine Paint,, what paint is best for your motor and keeping it cool
Here is the link in case you would rather read it later
http://bobhooversblog.blogspot.co.uk/2006/11/vw-engine-paint.html?m=1
Here is a suggestion for cleaning the block first:
After Scrubbing it with Gasoline
Use Easy off Over Cleaner
then give it a bath in ZEP (Degreaser)
VW - Engine Paint
Engine Paint
In the several years since it was posted my article on painting VW engines has probably produced more mail than any of the other two hundred or so other articles.
That tells me I didn’t do a very good job.
The basic reason for painting your engine to begin with is to protect it from rust and corrosion. But since all paints serve as insulators to some degree, you want to pick a paint that, ideally, will help your engine run as cool as possible.
Within the range of temperatures we’re concerned with, which is basically the maximum range of our oil temperatures . . . say, 400 degrees Fahrenheit as the max . . . a thin coat of flat-black paint will enhance the heat-flow... from surfaces which are in contact with the oil. That means, the valve covers, push-rod tubes, cylinders, generator tower, crankcase (*) and sump-plate.
The physics of this heat-flow enhancement can get a little hairy but they generally fall-in with the reasoning Jazz laid out in his message. Key factors are that the black surface must be thin . . . having to do with the wavelength of the heat-energy being transmitted . . . and must be intimately bonded to the heated surface, the metal to which the paint is applied, and that the paint not contain clay, metallic particles or other substances that act as insulators. In plain language, do not use the so-called ‘high-temperature’ paints, firstly because we aren’t dealing with high temperatures, and finally because such paints act as insulators.
The (*) has to do with aluminum vs magnesium alloy. Paint doesn’t like to stick to aluminum unless the surface has been chemically etched. Since this isn’t practical with the Type IV crankcase, I don’t recommend that it be painted, which is why I specifically mentioned ‘magnesium-alloy’ when talking about painting crankcases. Magnesium is much more chemically reactive than aluminum . . . it is, in effect, ‘self-etching’ (unless passivated) . . . and gains far more benefit from the corrosion-protective qualities of a layer of paint than does aluminum. So paint your early-style crankcase but don’t worry about it if you have a Type IV. (I feel bound to mention that there are such things as self-etching paint intended specifically for aluminum. Most of these are formulated for the aviation industry, are difficult to find except from aviation-oriented suppliers and are expensive. I think such things are beyond the scope of articles directed toward the general population of Volkswagen owners.)
With regard to the aluminum heads, which I also do not recommend be painted, the problem has more to do with the temperatures encountered near the exhaust stacks, which is so high it will destroy all common forms of flat-black paint. There are ways to blacken aluminum and thereby enhance it’s thermal radiation properties . . . you can see examples of this on many motorcycles . . . but the process is beyond the means of the typical Volkswagen owner.
Then we get to the ‘All Black Engine’ confusion.
I trod upon many a toe when I said that folks who chromed their engines hadn’t a clue. That particular thread got its start with regard to the benefits . . .meaning trophies to be won at car-shows . . . of polishing the crankcase.
A polished crankcase, along with chrome valve covers, push-rod tubes, generator tower and sump-plate cause a VW engine to run so hot you wouldn’t believe it . . . the thing literally melts down.
Of course, if you live in Lapland, this may be exactly what you want, which is why Volkswagen offered chrome valve covers and push-rod tubes and sump-plates and split bearings . . .all as part of their ‘high-latitude’ package, intended to keep their air-cooled twirler warm and working in a sub-zero climate.
See the problem here?
If Volkswagen themselves offered such things . . . and there were part-numbers that would yield-up marvelously well-chromed parts . . .then obviously the things had to be good for the engine, right? Speaking from my perspective in sunny southern Cal, I said ‘No,’ loud and clear. Yet there were those pesky VW part-numbers... Conventional Wisdom wins again.
The truth is, with regard to any part of your engine not in contact with hot oil, you may paint it . . . or chrome it . . . any color you wish. In the case of your shrouding, tin-ware and blower housing, the finish . . . paint, chrome or what-have-you . . . is there only to protect the metal. These metal parts are not a factor in the transfer of heat via radiation. The metal is there to contain the envelope of cooling air. I realize the metal will get hot through both conduction and radiation absorption but the quantity of that heat is minuscule when compared to that being radiated by those parts of the engine in contact with the oil. Indeed, this perception of heat is subjective. When the engine is running and the car is moving, the shrouding and tin-ware is usually only slightly warmer than the ambient air temperature. It is only when the vehicle is brought to a halt and the engine shut off that any significant quantity of heat can be absorbed by the tin-ware. The subjective part is the fact that you can not put your hand on the tin-ware when roaring down the highway at sixty mph... but you can when the vehicle has stopped... by which time the tin-ware feels hot to the touch. And Conventional Wisdom wins again.
Want to polish your crankcase? Chrome your valve covers? Go right ahead. But don’t plan on driving the vehicle. _________________ My '64 Pan Meyers Manx Dune Buggy "Lady in Red"
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=659260
My '67 Split Window Bus project :
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=634144
My '67 Maserati Blue Oceano Bug Build:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541870 |
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Goshen Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:27 am Post subject: Re: My first Manx type Dune Buggy... a Deal of a Lifetime.. |
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I have an original Meyer's Manx Dash so I thought of painting it to match the exterior paint on my buggy.. but when i asked a couple of guys in the Manx Dune buggy forums they suggested black so i sanded it , prep cleaned and painted with Rust Oleum Satin black paint.. it came out great !!!
A closer look ...
I wanted some chrome trim parts so i the brand new carb intake manifold comes with a Zinc coating to protect it but it looks yellow and i didnt like this so I wet sanded it with 600, 1000, 1500, and 3000 wet sand paper.. then i buffed it to a gloss with a brown stone on my buffer wheel... after this i simply ceramic high heat coated it for protection and sealed it.
_________________ My '64 Pan Meyers Manx Dune Buggy "Lady in Red"
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=659260
My '67 Split Window Bus project :
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=634144
My '67 Maserati Blue Oceano Bug Build:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541870 |
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Goshen Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 9:31 am Post subject: Re: My first Manx type Dune Buggy... a Deal of a Lifetime.. |
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I have decided that i want to go with a Candy Apple 3 stage paint on the exterior of the buggy... so it can match the wheels
Here is what it looks like on this camaro
And these are the wheels that i am going to use... it has a Candy Apple Bead ring that is powdercoated over Aluminum so the candy color on the body has to go over silver base paint.
_________________ My '64 Pan Meyers Manx Dune Buggy "Lady in Red"
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=659260
My '67 Split Window Bus project :
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=634144
My '67 Maserati Blue Oceano Bug Build:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541870
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hillmotorsports Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2014 Posts: 432 Location: Morrisburg, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Manx Dune Buggy Build (Ms. Lady in Red) |
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I'm trying to picture a vacuum that isn't electric..... _________________ Rosemarie and Paul Hill
Morrisburg, Ontario
(With way more projects than spare time!) |
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Goshen Samba Member
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hillmotorsports Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Manx Dune Buggy Build (Ms. Lady in Red) |
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Thanks Goshen.
My old timerz was acting up, have actually used a similar device of my own making 30 yrs ago.
Thanks for the trip down memory lane! _________________ Rosemarie and Paul Hill
Morrisburg, Ontario
(With way more projects than spare time!) |
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Wetstuff Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Manx Dune Buggy Build (Ms. Lady in Red) |
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Goshen, Your exhaust plays a really nice tune. It's adult enough ..but you can still hear it.
Are you planning to shoot the paint yourself?
Jim _________________ Manx #2614 |
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Goshen Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: Manx Dune Buggy Build (Ms. Lady in Red) |
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Here are some pics of the paint that i am going with...
It was specially mixed to be as close to Candy Apple Red without having to go to House of Kolors ...
I am experimenting with several basecoats such as Silver base, Gold base, White base and Primer grey base.
I am trying out some base colors to bring out the custom paint mixed to resemble Candy Apple Red without having to go with House of Colors for a 3 stage paint. Just check it out.
Here are two views..
one without flash
and the other with flash
Here is the YouTube video
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_________________ My '64 Pan Meyers Manx Dune Buggy "Lady in Red"
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=659260
My '67 Split Window Bus project :
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=634144
My '67 Maserati Blue Oceano Bug Build:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541870 |
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Goshen Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:46 am Post subject: Re: Manx Dune Buggy Build (Ms. Lady in Red) |
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My 1641cc motor is being built by Raul Arrese Custom Fabrication & Performance of Miami...
New everything.. case was Aligned Bored by The Wizards
New 87mm Piston & Cyl
New Connecting Rods
New Camshaft
New Crank
New Lifters
New Case Hardware complete
New CB Performance Full Flow Oil Pump
New Fuel Pump
New Electronic Dizzy
New Bearings: Dual thrust cam bearings, Crank bearings, Rod bearings
New Lightened flywheel
New Gland nut
New Seals
New New New
Raul built the following motor for his 1959 Bug
Here is a closeup of this motor.. notice no distributor
_________________ My '64 Pan Meyers Manx Dune Buggy "Lady in Red"
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=659260
My '67 Split Window Bus project :
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=634144
My '67 Maserati Blue Oceano Bug Build:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541870 |
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:16 pm Post subject: Re: Manx Dune Buggy Build (Ms. Lady in Red) |
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That setup is loco... Hats off to Mr Arrese.
And congrats Goshen for the restoration job. |
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