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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:30 pm Post subject: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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I know over the years that I've run into a fair share of cheap Chinese parts for air cooled VW's but this one must take the cake.
34PEAK-3
Google or samba search hasn't yielded any info. Just wondering if anyone here might have seen this before. I can't get it to not stumble off idle. It's mated with a 009 so I'm wondering if soldering up the throttle plate hole might help?
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busdaddy Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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Hahahahahahaha!, another fine product from Sum Ting Wong industries, that's some funny shit!
You don't need a throttle plate hole with an 009 so close that up, also check the top cover for flatness, I've seen a few Chinese carbs with horribly warped covers that don't seal the vacuum and idle passages that pass through them. Also check the choke pull diaphragm, the Chinese just can't make a decent one it seems. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16961 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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Thanks Mark. Yesterday I did the ultrasonic soak and rebuild thing but it still runs the same, like shit. I also did an honest Solex yesterday and it runs great on the same test engine. That one has the hole plugged. This is definitely a carb issue. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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So who makes the best rebuild kits? _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Tcash Samba Member
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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Thanks Tim. Kinda pricey. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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SGKent Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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$20? They cost that 30 years ago _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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Check the accelerator shaft linkages for slop and wear. This POS EMPI carb had a HORRIBLE off idle flat spot/hesitation. Basically, you're pushing the throttle and instead of IMMEDIATELY getting a spray out of the nozzle, you're only getting the movement of the slop before it finally starts to push the accelerator actuator. I have another German Solex 34-3 that was doing the same thing. It's linkage was wobbled out and sloppy as well for many years of use.
I don't know about that wang chung pow carb you have there but.. the Solex 34-3's have that accelerator adjustment (see the picture above) to increase the accelerator spray on the linkage. You may need to fatten it up and make it spray quicker/fatter.[/img] _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16961 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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I don't know about that wang chung pow carb you have there but.. the Solex 34-3's have that accelerator adjustment (see the picture above) to increase the accelerator spray on the linkage. You may need to fatten it up and make it spray quicker/fatter.
Tried that and it did help but still not good enough.
Last year I bought three of these kits from Century Distributors in Visalia. They just have smoking prices. You can see that it cost me $6.95. I'll call them tomorrow. From what I see of the pics online of the $22 kits, they look the same as this one. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:37 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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Check the accelerator shaft linkages for slop and wear.
This is probably the problem. I'll take a look. Right now I'm rebuilding 2 Bocar 34pict-3's and a Solex 30/31 with the 34 intake adapter. My goal is to run each on the test engine and dial them in.
Here's a video. This video shows the engine with a different carb (last week)
http://vid433.photobucket.com/albums/qq58/aeromech32254/JoeKen1967SplitBus/IMG_3231.mp4 _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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SGKent wrote: |
$20? They cost that 30 years ago |
Shouldn't they be 10 usd now? _________________ .ssS! |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 5:23 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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Abscate wrote: |
SGKent wrote: |
$20? They cost that 30 years ago |
Shouldn't they be 10 usd now? |
only in a surreal world where someone says see the birds flying overhead and you say no, they are swimming in the ocean. In fact I think prices are so low now based on the Brexit you should just give me your bus now before you have to pay someone to take it off your hands. I'll even split shipping with you. There - fixed it. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Hahahahahahaha!, another fine product from Sum Ting Wong industries, that's some funny shit!
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here is there carburetor commercial
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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aeromech wrote: |
Tried that and it did help but still not good enough.
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The next step would be to put in a bigger main jet. What's in it now? Lot's of folks trying to run that mis-match of an 009 and a 34-3 max the accelerator adjustment and fattened up the main jet. If it has a say 127.5 main in it now, go up to a 130 or 132.5. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16961 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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Worth considering Bill. Baby steps _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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SGKent Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 7:03 am Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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127.5 is usually adequate. A 132 makes it puke black smoke sometimes, and cuts HP by probably 5 - 7 HP. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 10:19 am Post subject: Re: Help ID this carburetor. Never seen one like it before |
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34 PICKED 3.
The built 34 of them, and then picked 3 they thought might work. _________________ .ssS! |
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