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carcrazed Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2007 Posts: 957 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 2:49 pm Post subject: Kadron air filters too tall. Any short air filters? |
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I was syncing and tuning my Kadron 40/44s on my 65 yesterday and noticed that the top of the air cleaner on the passengers side is rubbing the hood and has worn the metal most of the way through! They are the 6"round aftermarket chrome ones like these:
http://www.mofoco.com/item/EMPI_8801_BROSOL_SOLEX_CARBURETOR_AIR_FILTER_VW_BUG_BUS/462/c157m41
Is there a 6" round filter that I can buy that might fit into the housings a little shorter? I haven't been able to find any searching online, other that real skinny stacks. My goal is to find some that will fit and avoid purchasing new ones that run above $40. My other thought is to cut about an inch off of the filters so they are shorter. Any suggestions? _________________ 1965 Herbie Replica. 1776cc dual Kads.
1961 Beetle 33,000 Original Miles
"Just When you think you are getting ahead, you're always wrong." |
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grandpa pete Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2008 Posts: 6426 Location: St. Petersburg, FL
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rcooled Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2008 Posts: 2491 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Kadron air filters too tall. Any short air filters? |
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carcrazed wrote: |
Is there a 6" round filter that I can buy that might fit into the housings a little shorter?? |
I searched everywhere for 2" tall filters that would fit the Kadron air cleaner housings in my Ghia. There are no standard filters from any manufacture in the size I needed. I wound up modifying some standard K&N filters to fit and that worked out pretty well.
BTW, standard Kadron air cleaner housings have an inside diameter of 5.80", not 6.00".
If you can't come up with a suitable replacement filter, you can use a bandsaw to cut the standard Kadron filter down to whatever height you want. Then get some Plasti-Dip (the stuff you dip tools into to form a plastic coating on the handles) and pour it into a suitable tray to a depth of about 1/8". Dip the cut end of the filter into the Plasti-Dip to form a seal similar to the molded rubber ends that come on the filters originally. It might take several dips to build up to a suitable thickness. _________________ '63 Ragtop (current)
'65 Ghia coupe (totaled)
'67 Ghia convertible (current)
'69.5 Ghia convertible and
'62, '63, '65, '69 Bugs (all long gone)
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bugheadred Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2003 Posts: 666
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Kadron air filters too tall. Any short air filters? |
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check your motor mounts . ill bet one is bad and your motor is not level . the carbs are the same height . why does one hit and one doesn't is more what I would wonder |
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rcooled Samba Member
Joined: September 20, 2008 Posts: 2491 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Kadron air filters too tall. Any short air filters? |
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[email protected] wrote: |
...why does one hit and one doesn't is more what I would wonder |
I doubt that the motor mounts are at fault here. The passenger-side carb sits further toward the rear of the engine bay than the driver-side carb and is closer to the engine lid.
To the OP: Kadron air cleaners have mounting holes that are off center, so rotating the housings will move the cleaners back & forth a bit. Have you tired moving them around to see if you can get the clearance you need? _________________ '63 Ragtop (current)
'65 Ghia coupe (totaled)
'67 Ghia convertible (current)
'69.5 Ghia convertible and
'62, '63, '65, '69 Bugs (all long gone) |
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iowegian Samba Curmudgeon
Joined: February 16, 2005 Posts: 9826 Location: Somewhere between Dubuque and Keokuk
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: Kadron air filters too tall. Any short air filters? |
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As a wise man once said--------"hit it with an axe".
But, seriously------I've had to do what rcooled said. Cut down something that is close. |
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bugheadred Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2003 Posts: 666
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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2016 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Kadron air filters too tall. Any short air filters? |
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rcooled wrote: |
[email protected] wrote: |
...why does one hit and one doesn't is more what I would wonder |
I doubt that the motor mounts are at fault here. The passenger-side carb sits further toward the rear of the engine bay than the driver-side carb and is closer to the engine lid.
To the OP: Kadron air cleaners have mounting holes that are off center, so rotating the housings will move the cleaners back & forth a bit. Have you tired moving them around to see if you can get the clearance you need? |
I would just take a look yes you are right 1 and 2 are closer to the back of the car but the air cleaners should not hit and there must be a reason (bent frame horn) I have seen a lot of cars with the right side of the motor higher than the left |
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carcrazed Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2007 Posts: 957 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Kadron air filters too tall. Any short air filters? |
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Thanks for the input. I will most likely just cut the ones I have and plasti-dip the cut end of them. _________________ 1965 Herbie Replica. 1776cc dual Kads.
1961 Beetle 33,000 Original Miles
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Rome Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Kadron air filters too tall. Any short air filters? |
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When I bought my first set of Kads over 25 years ago for my Ghia, I found a lawn mower air filter foam element that was about 2 1/2" high. Soaked it in oil, squeezed out the excess oil, cut down the wire mesh outer filter guard from the Kads, and installed everything. Fit well. Try a large box hardware store for the filters, or just find online or at a mower repair shop. |
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