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16CVs 
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 Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2017 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: Rounded proboscis proof of concept testing |
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This thread is what the Forums are about. Most topics here have been covered in some way or another, this one is a fresh as a tomato from my wife's garden
You can't argue with a guy who does a radical Subaru transplant in 3 weeks. His forward thinking is interesting. I like many others have noticed how much quieter our interiors after rebuilding our heater box. I just spent 1500 miles behind the steering wheel of a Syncro with a Small Car in dash A/C unit and it was super quiet.
I don't know if i'd drive around with a kidde pool on the front of my van but If I could radically quiet my interior with some reasonable add on, I'd think of it.
So it leads me to ask, What would TK say?
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Abscate
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Rounded proboscis proof of concept testing |
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He would say this thread is like a group of toddlers on a kiddie pool arguing about how to make Phelps faster....and he would be right.
This isn't in the same zip code as Engineering
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Wellington
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 3:59 am Post subject: Re: Rounded proboscis proof of concept testing |
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| Merian wrote: |
| furrylittleotter wrote: |
... I like to call it genious...
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I see a 917 in your future... |
No need to discuss air flow in the rear vents on this project.
Don't mean to hijack, but I've never seen a van without the rear vents, is that factory? |
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gears
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:41 am Post subject: Re: Rounded proboscis proof of concept testing |
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| 16CV's wrote: |
This thread is what the Forums are about. Most topics here have been covered in some way or another, this one is a fresh as a tomato from my wife's garden
You can't argue with a guy who does a radical Subaru transplant in 3 weeks. His forward thinking is interesting. ..snip ..
So it leads me to ask, What would TK say?
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With or without TK, there will always be someone willing to insult for no good reason. Many thanks for your continued thought provoking contributions, Neil ..
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Steve M.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Rounded proboscis proof of concept testing |
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| gears wrote: |
| 16CV's wrote: |
This thread is what the Forums are about. Most topics here have been covered in some way or another, this one is a fresh as a tomato from my wife's garden
You can't argue with a guy who does a radical Subaru transplant in 3 weeks. His forward thinking is interesting. ..snip ..
So it leads me to ask, What would TK say?
Stacy |
With or without TK, there will always be someone willing to insult for no good reason. Many thanks for your continued thought provoking contributions, Neil .. |
100% in agreement.
If you do not try an idea you will never know how it will work.
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Merian
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Rounded proboscis proof of concept testing |
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Old ideas have already been tried.
A little education in this area would solve the problem.
Nothing new here, but have fun
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jimf909
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| Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Rounded proboscis proof of concept testing |
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| Wellington wrote: |
No need to discuss air flow in the rear vents on this project.
Don't mean to hijack, but I've never seen a van without the rear vents, is that factory? |
There's not much left from the factory on this van. The engine conversion (subie mid-engine) thread for this van is another one of the best here (I like the experimentation in this thread and the ingenuity of the engine swap).
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nemobuscaptain
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Rounded proboscis proof of concept testing |
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Awesome Neil!
The luggage rack is another culprit. The angle is bad enough but having the depression immediately at the lip creates flow separation. The tintop roofline is fairly well designed but the camper top is just some unscientific aftermarket stuff slapped on...[/img] |
Yep.
EDIT/// I didn't read the next page and Kamz already posted it...
Thats why I made this, I cut most of the luggage bin off and just used the perimeter to build my new fiberglass masonite 2x4 bondo replacement with. It was pretty time consuming, but it did get rid of wind noise and helped MPGs...
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Uploaded a couple of these photos so they don't get lost in the future.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Rounded proboscis proof of concept testing |
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Well since the topic of aerodynamics has come up allow me to show a couple of ideas that I have been working on.
Many moons ago someone came up with an "ideal" aerodynamic shape.
Here is that shape laid out with a Vanagon.
Now if you actually lay this shape over the van you start to get an idea how good or bad the Vanagon aero is.
It's not super but not that bad either.
Notice how the front end starts to match up with the template.
However, If we were to make it a little bigger the front starts to line up real well.
If we were to design a high top based loosely on this template you might end up with something that looks a little like this.
If I ever get around to it I hope to build a high top based on this design.
I don't need to sleep up there. I just need enough height to stand up and give me a place to store some light weight items up there.
If you were really going for some super aero, one could add that weird little aero tail to the back and maybe get a good bump in fuel economy. |
This pics are gone but it is basically this, I assume:
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Rounded proboscis proof of concept testing |
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Go this one and talk to the-reps there. They are very tolerant and won’t laugh at you, since most of them are educators.
My 14th one.
Phoenix . Thanksgiving weekend before
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