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rowling Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2018 Posts: 26 Location: Thunder Bay
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 4:32 pm Post subject: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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Okay - for those of you who have succesfully reassembled one of these turn signal switches, how the heck did you get it back together? Any tips or suggestions are appreciated.
Or if you want to make a few bucks I can maybe mail all the bits to you....
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51153 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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Use sticky grease to hold the balls and springs in place while you herd it all into place, a smaller C clamp or rubber bands can help keep things sort of where they belong until you can pinch it fully shut. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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alman72 Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2014 Posts: 2573 Location: MICHIGAN
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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you using the pic from the other thread? your ball in the right place? |
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kaiisons Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2012 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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I super glue the small springs to the brass contact this stops it from going in crooked and I use grease to hold the copper roller halfway up the bridge.
This is the way that i do it assuming you've installed the trigger and springs onto the bridge and super glued the springs onto the brass contact
1. Hold the steel cage in your hand and install the bridge into to the two holes.
2. Put some grease in the middle of the "V" on the bridge and install copper roller
3. roll the bridge forward outside of the cage with one hand and with the arm in your other hand squeeze the spring against the copper roller IMPORTANT! make sure the spring is square with the roller.
4. roll bridge back upright ensuring you line up the hole on the main body with the steel cage and the pin on the trigger is in the slot on the cage and in the body.
5. hold everything together squarely and put the bottom plate on squarely! I use a cable tie to hold everything together before I fold the ears on the cage down.
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rowling Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2018 Posts: 26 Location: Thunder Bay
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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Thank you for the responses. Sorry for taking awhile to answer - in my attempt to reassemble the switch I managed to lose one of the two small springs. I cleaned off my work bench, pulled the bench out from the wall, went through the garbage, swore, had a beer, went through the garbage again, swept the floor a few times and still could not find it.
Gave up, had another beer and figured I would try to make a spring out of a ball point pen spring and it looked not too bad - a bit bigger but still ok. Crazy glued the assembly together as suggested and still struggled with reassembling.
Gave up again and went on to something else. I am much like a crow - when I see something shiny my attention is easily diverted. So I am fiddling with the gas pedal / kick down switch and what do I see... that tiny spring. I could have sworn it was in the assembly when I had it on the bench, but whatever... I'll take it.
So back to reassembling - the ball, as suggested, is in what I think is the right position - at the end of the switch arm.
Just to confirm, the cylinder, a.k.a. roller, is inserted, somehow, into the body against the spring pressure and the flat face fits in the groove of the plastic section that has the hammer connected. The pictures in other threads show the cylinder / roller up and down as opposed to horizontal and inserted against the spring.
Is that right or is there something obvious that I am missing? |
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kaiisons Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2012 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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The pictures show the correct orientation. The flat ends are up and down, not against the spring. |
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rowling Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2018 Posts: 26 Location: Thunder Bay
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Posted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:37 am Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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I got it figured out and - hopefully - successfully reassembled. Thanks for the help and suggestions. |
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mikedjames Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2012 Posts: 2743 Location: Hamble, Hampshire, UK
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:37 am Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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If I find all the pieces after an incident like that it usually means it will go back together perfectly.
I have dropped ball bearings from the ignition switch internals outdoors under the bus and found them again in the dark, after I found the replacement was wrong and I needed to put the original back together after a forensic disassembly.
I have dropped the unique grubscrew from the ignition switch and found it... _________________ Ancient vehicles and vessels
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Engine 1: 40k miles (rocker shaft clip fell off), Engine 2: 30k miles (rebuild, dropped valve). Engine 3: a JK Preservation Parts "new" engine, aluminium case: 26k miles: new top end.
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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I have dropped ball bearings from the ignition switch internals outdoors under the bus and found them again in the dark, after I found the replacement was wrong and I needed to put the original back together after a forensic disassembly.
I have dropped the unique grubscrew from the ignition switch and found it... |
For those of you seeking something you lost. Prayer. I dropped a ball bearing in the 2mm size range once out of a very expensive one of a kind distributor for a very expensive Italian sports car. After 30 minutes of looking for it all around the garage - where the door was sealed so it could not escape, I prayed, "Lord just show me where it is please." About 10 seconds later I had a vision of it under a piece of 2x4 30' away, a place where it could not have rolled if it wanted to because there were obstacles in the way. Guess where it was. Under that piece of 2x4. Prayer. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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old DKP driver Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2005 Posts: 4145 Location: Los Gatos,Ca.
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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Question for all that can tell me if my original 72 switch has the same internal
White plastic pieces as found on the 73-74 with the longer stalk.?
Thanks, Chris _________________ V.W.owner since 1967 |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22670 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:07 am Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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SGKent wrote: |
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I have dropped ball bearings from the ignition switch internals outdoors under the bus and found them again in the dark, after I found the replacement was wrong and I needed to put the original back together after a forensic disassembly.
I have dropped the unique grubscrew from the ignition switch and found it... |
For those of you seeking something you lost. Prayer. I dropped a ball bearing in the 2mm size range once out of a very expensive one of a kind distributor for a very expensive Italian sports car. After 30 minutes of looking for it all around the garage - where the door was sealed so it could not escape, I prayed, "Lord just show me where it is please." About 10 seconds later I had a vision of it under a piece of 2x4 30' away, a place where it could not have rolled if it wanted to because there were obstacles in the way. Guess where it was. Under that piece of 2x4. Prayer. |
When I lost my wife the Creator answered my prayers by sending her sister. Later on, that ended poorly. Turned out Feklar played a hand. _________________ .ssS! |
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kaiisons Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2012 Posts: 77 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 5:34 pm Post subject: Re: 72 - 74 turn signal switch |
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old DKP driver wrote: |
Question for all that can tell me if my original 72 switch has the same internal
White plastic pieces as found on the 73-74 with the longer stalk.?
Thanks, Chris |
Trigger and Bridge piece are the same. The main body at the end of the stick is different in that the diameter is 5mm vs 6mm for the later units |
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