Hello! Log in or Register   |  Help  |  Donate  |  Buy Shirts See all banner ads | Advertise on TheSamba.com  
TheSamba.com
 
Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair?
Forum Index -> Vanagon Share: Facebook Twitter
Reply to topic
Print View
Quick sort: Show newest posts on top | Show oldest posts on top View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
SyncroHead Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: May 23, 2005
Posts: 1141
Location: Northern Nevada
SyncroHead is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:06 am    Post subject: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

Hi friends. Years ago my Syncro-specific oil filler tube separated between the plastic and steel portions. I'd buy a new one if they were available, but it appears they are not.

I originally "repaired" with some glue and put a plastic sheath around the outside and secured it with hose clamps. It worked for a number of years, but now that my engine is out, I want to make a better, more permanent repair.

Has anyone done this with a method they's recommend?

A couple pics:

Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Closer-up:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.


Would apprectiate the guidance of someone who's had success here. I'm considering JB Weld, but ???

Jim Davis
_________________
"A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"

Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org

sphet wrote:
I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
?Waldo?
Samba Member


Joined: February 22, 2006
Posts: 9752
Location: Where?
?Waldo? is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:08 am    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

If you decide to glue it, Automotive Goop adhesive will hold up much better long-term than JB Weld.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
SyncroHead Premium Member
Samba Member


Joined: May 23, 2005
Posts: 1141
Location: Northern Nevada
SyncroHead is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

?Waldo? wrote:
If you decide to glue it, Automotive Goop adhesive will hold up much better long-term than JB Weld.


Thanks!
Just looked up Automotive Goop. Label says
"...fully cured adhesive can withstand temperatures from -40 to 180F intermittently."

Seems the temperature here on a running engine might be near the upper range of this routinely. Guessing 150-170F - ish? Don't know how the Goop would handle that on a long-term basis.

Jim Davis
_________________
"A Vanagon? It's not a car or a van. It's a hobby!"

Check out:
www.VANAVATION.com
www.SyncroSafari.org and
www.Vanagons.org

sphet wrote:
I have *no* idea what the previous owner carried in his Westy... angry donkeys?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Gallery Classifieds Feedback
?Waldo?
Samba Member


Joined: February 22, 2006
Posts: 9752
Location: Where?
?Waldo? is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

I've used it in specifically on the oil filler tube without issue. It is both very strong and at the same time more flexible than JB Weld when cured. It withstands oil and fuel. If you do use it, then clean the surfaces with brake clean, smear on both parts, then assemble and remove the excess. Obviously nothing to me if you decide to use something else, though. Report back the results of whatever you decide to use, in order to expand the tribal knowledge.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Zeitgeist 13
Samba Member


Joined: March 05, 2009
Posts: 12115
Location: Port Manteau
Zeitgeist 13 is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

industrial heat shrink material would be a nice follow up to fully seal that joint after gluing. The stuff I use is really thick and adds structure to a juncture like that.
_________________
Casey--

'89 Bluestar ALH w/12mm Waldo pump, PP764 and GT2052
'01 Weekender --> full camper
y u rune klassik?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
davideric9
Samba Member


Joined: January 21, 2009
Posts: 1000
Location: Oakland CA
davideric9 is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

I think I used RTV silicone, then self amalgamating tape and then a hose clamp, just for good measure.
_________________
1987 Syncro Westfalia, stock (bought 1994)
1986 Syncro Westfalia SVX, 3 knob (bought 2008)
1987 Westfalia (bought 2010)
1988 Wolfsburg GL (bought 2012)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
MarkWard
Samba Member


Joined: February 09, 2005
Posts: 17115
Location: Retired South Florida
MarkWard is offline 

PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

I bicycle inner tube might make a nice boot once you secure it. I've got a small bag of Type 3 oil fill boots. Wonder if one could be adapted?


https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1999515

No affiliation, but they seem to be available.
_________________
☮️
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
4Gears4Tires
Samba Member


Joined: October 08, 2018
Posts: 3019
Location: MD
4Gears4Tires is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:56 am    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

How is this part any different? I am using the 2wd oil filler tube.
_________________
'87 Syncro
Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
DanHoug
Samba Member


Joined: December 05, 2016
Posts: 4772
Location: Bemidji, MN
DanHoug is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

i repaired my drippy wobbly fill tube with copious amounts of The Right Stuff gasket maker. it cures harder than typical RTVs yet has more resiliency than an epoxy. hose clamps for tightness and support, as you did. clean everything crazy well before attempting.
_________________
-dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.

'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd

Past projects can be found at--
www.thefixitworkshop.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
davideric9
Samba Member


Joined: January 21, 2009
Posts: 1000
Location: Oakland CA
davideric9 is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

4Gears4Tires wrote:
How is this part any different? I am using the 2wd oil filler tube.


The syncro filler tube is longer to compensate for the taller mustache bar, so that it will end up in the same place as 2wd behind the license plate door. the syncro dip stick and dip stick tube are also longer than 2wd. afaik.
_________________
1987 Syncro Westfalia, stock (bought 1994)
1986 Syncro Westfalia SVX, 3 knob (bought 2008)
1987 Westfalia (bought 2010)
1988 Wolfsburg GL (bought 2012)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Gallery Classifieds Feedback
4Gears4Tires
Samba Member


Joined: October 08, 2018
Posts: 3019
Location: MD
4Gears4Tires is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

Makes sense. My 2wd dipstick is a pain to access. I use a funnel to add oil anyway so I don't think there is any change there.
_________________
'87 Syncro
Ferric Oxyhydroxide Superleggera Edition
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Classifieds Feedback
WiboBusMan
Samba Member


Joined: September 26, 2009
Posts: 141
Location: Canada
WiboBusMan is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

My first choice would be ABS bumper repair epoxy, available in different brands. It cures to a hard rubber consistency, allowing some play / movement / thermal expansion. I've used this successfully to repair a hole in a Syncro tank - approx 10 years and holding without any seeping whatsoever.

With any such repairs, surface prep is key - has to be absolutely 'dry' of any oil, and roughed to probably a 60 grit or coarser.

The idea of using self-vulcanizing tape isn't bad at all, though I know it holds up to coolant, I don't know about oil. Once again, surface prep is key.

W
_________________
Science has sacrificed Truth on the altar of its narrative.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
ALIKA T3
Samba Member


Joined: July 30, 2009
Posts: 6349
Location: Honolulu,Hawaii and France
ALIKA T3 is offline 

PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Syncro Oil Filler Tube - Repair? Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
industrial heat shrink material would be a nice follow up to fully seal that joint after gluing. The stuff I use is really thick and adds structure to a juncture like that.


Exactly. It`s called adhesive-lined heat shrink tubing, the size you need is 40mm ( 1.5").

Works like a charm.
_________________
Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Gallery Classifieds Feedback
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Forum Index -> Vanagon All times are Mountain Standard Time/Pacific Daylight Savings Time
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

About | Help! | Advertise | Donate | Premium Membership | Privacy/Terms of Use | Contact Us | Site Map
Copyright © 1996-2023, Everett Barnes. All Rights Reserved.
Not affiliated with or sponsored by Volkswagen of America | Forum powered by phpBB
Links to eBay or other vendor sites may be affiliate links where the site receives compensation.