Exhaust options camper special engine

[DougB]

Agreed...I'm regularly at 3900 rpms or more with an 002 pyramid tranny just at normal highway speeds. The CS is wonderfully balanced so you don't notice it as much.

I did buy my stainless Vintage Speed muffler from Aircooled.net, but it's just too loud to enjoy the bus on long road trips. :-/

- Doug
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[richparker]

^Doug, I've read many of your posts about the VS being too loud at cruising speeds, I actually find it to be opposite. Even my wife says it's quieter then the Phatboy I was running and states it's much easier to have a conversation now. I guess I need to go for a ride in a T4 bus with a VS to compair.

Hey Notchboy, how do you feel the tone for your VS is with that 2.4?
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[notchboy]

I notice it being louder than the stock motor and can it had for a muffler. I notice it mostly when the noise bounces off a wall on the right side from the tail pipe. The drone in the bus is slightly louder but not defining or uncomfortable.

Fourth gear, uphill. Im not screaming at the camera and hearing just fine. RPMs are higher in the first vid than the second.

To me its all negligible and I wouldn't give it two shits if it wasn't for us kicking it around here.


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[udidwht]

My 2056cc with S&S exhaust...

https://youtu.be/0EoAeY8dG0o

And on the run while jetting with vac gauge and LM-2....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ObUMPCHw1Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZGLD67F9DQ
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[DougB]

What is the S&S exhaust?

Keep in mind that I'm running the stock muffler now. There is simply no comparing the interior sound at highway speed between the header+single muffler combinations or the VS exhaust...stock is sooo quiet compared to the others. The next time I have the VS on, just for a change of pace, I'll get the decibel readings. But seriously, anyone who thinks the VS is quieter than stock is welcome to bet me a keg of beer on it. Of course there are performance trade-offs...the VS was definitely much snappier when you'd stomp on the gas while already at highway speeds, that's for sure.

The sound wasn't all that big of a deal for me...but my wife is already losing some of her hearing sensitivity, and with the kids on the Westy back seat a good distance from the driver's seat the drone was significant, and my wife was always asking people to repeat themselves and getting frustrated.

So, back to the Python. People were talking it up so much...so who's actually running one?

- Doug
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'73 Fastback
'52 BMW R67/2
'41 Zundapp KS600
'55 Puch SGS250
A very, very understanding wife

[notchboy]

[udidwht]

[otiswesty]

Here is how my Ernst muffler looked when I got it on the bus 5 or 6 weeks ago.
BusDepot sells one that looks very similar.
http://www.busdepot.com/071251053ek

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[notchboy]

[udidwht]

[notchboy]

[old DKP driver]

S&S Headers started in Santa Ana /Orange County ,CA way back in the 1960's
then moved to Anaheim,CA. then ended up in Glendale,AZ.

I bought my last exhaust system from them in March 2007 before they
went out of business.

Dean Lowery had a vested interest in them when they were in Santa ana
since they were close to his shop.

I do remember that they were also a big header fabricator for a lot of
V-8 and other racing engines in our area. Along with having a couple
of guys that were pioneers for VW bugs that came from a small shop
in Anaheim,CA. called "ANCHOR Muffler" and this shop was the 1ST
to Bend & fabricate (on the car) OUR exhaust systems for DKP members
while you waited in the showroom. (look it up) if you don't believe me. dkp class of 1967....
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[notchboy]

[Hoody]

Chris beat me to it. SS extractors are not what they used to be. My local VW GURU has one. They sold the company to someone who now produces the steel from recycled steel. Hmmmmm maybe the Chinese? I guess there are not enough 72-74 heater box owners out their that want to buck up for a quality merged header. It could be made out of steel made in the USA and you could use your muffler of choice. That's the difference between quality
steel and the garbage that now floods the market. One Samba member has had his since 1988....a new one will have shit welds, won't fit perfectly, the flanges will warp and be much thinner and the muffler will rot from the inside out. Sadly the norm these days is that planned obsolescence is ok.

[DougB]

Thanks for keeping this going...definitely getting a lot of backstory and info from this thread.

For anyone on the east coast or DC area if you have a type 4 with the 72-74 muffler flanges you're welcome to try my VS exhaust (would just rather not have to ship it). If you like it I'll give you a good deal over a new one. It has an oxygen sensor, too.

I'm asking so many questions here mainly because I don't want to buy another exhaust just to not use it because my wife complains (it was just as much her decision as mine to drop the cash on the CS, so she kind of has a say since we travel in the Westy so much).

I found a guy earlier in the thread who has the Python in what looks to be a type 4 late bay, asking him about his experiences, so I'll let you all know what he says.

Thanks again, all!

- Doug
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'73 Fastback
'52 BMW R67/2
'41 Zundapp KS600
'55 Puch SGS250
A very, very understanding wife

[notchboy]

[Jake Raby]

[richparker]

Not knowing Jake, but knowing his reputation in the ACVW Community and the fact that people hold them in such high regard around here. I find that reply to be a total bummer, and I don't even own a T4.
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[airkooledchris]

The well of valuable T4 information dried up from that source a while ago, so we don't have to keep putting up with the bullshit attitude in the hopes that he sticks around anymore.

[Jake Raby]