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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:26 am Post subject: Battery pad? |
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I had pans redone last year. Do you folks have your battery on one of those pads in between the pan and battery? Do you use anything in case of leakage? |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:35 am Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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Also, should there be a retainer for the battery? |
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Frank Bassman Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2012 Posts: 893 Location: Miami
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:44 am Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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There are plastic "bins" for that purpose... Not just a VW thing.
There was a clamp from the factory.... But after my floor pan change I just never got around to installing it.
5 years later I have no issues... Batter fits nice and snug in the area, where is it going to go right? You would probably be ok without the clamp...unless you're a duke boy jumping levees and the like in your bug.... I drive mine every day with no clamp and after 5 years I don't have a problem for what it's worth.
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 4:46 am Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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Is there a source for one of thosnplastic bins? |
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 5:18 am Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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battery pad is a no no. just go and buy a plastic container the size of your battery or cut down a plastic jug that fits. _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
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Q-Dog Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2010 Posts: 8699 Location: Sunset, Louisiana
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:30 am Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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Frodge wrote: |
Also, should there be a retainer for the battery? |
Yes. In an accident you do not want the battery to become a projectile. _________________ Brian
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9753 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:41 am Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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Battery clamp looks like this. This example is from a bus, but the principle is the same. The difference is that on a beetle the stud that the clamp goes on is welded to the pan and you just have to use a nut and washer to secure it in place.
Good Luck. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31361 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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Frodge wrote: |
Also, should there be a retainer for the battery? |
Yes, your battery will also last tons longer if it doesn't get jostled about.
If you're missing the stud on your VW beetle for that clamp, you can drill a hole and insert a bolt from the bottom and secure that with a nut on the topside before you slide the bracket over it to secure with a nut. VW used a large sized nut for this so the supplied tools could be used, but you could use a socket and extension; heck, you could even use SAE instead of metric !!!
Just don't forget underneath the Vise-Grip you used to hold the bolt from turning while you fasten the first nut; don't ask me how I know this, but I did retrieve the Vise-Grip a few months later ! _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2016 9:54 am Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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In 1967, just east of Gallup, New Mexico, the dink who was driving his bug, fell asleep at the wheel. I was also asleep, but I wasn't driving. The car went into the median and flew high into the air. When it came down, the loose battery ejected and sprayed its contents throughout the cabin. Fortunately, the back seat was filled up with all kinds of stuff to absorb most of the acid. But not all.
I still have a belt that I was wearing during this single-car accident. It has a solid brass Triumph motorcycle buckle--and a battery-acid scar on the back of the leather ... to match the battery-acid scar on my back.
The car was totaled, I only got a broken collar bone and a week in the hospital, due to surgery to fix the break. So, lesson learned about wearing a seat belt.
But that scar on my back could have been avoidable. A cheap battery hold-down clamp was all that was necessary to prevent it.
Why take chances? You never know when the shit might hit the fan ... or something else that doesn't wash off as easily.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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I know some are saying to cut a box out. What are most of you doing? Any alternatives? I just have shiny new pans and want to keep them that way. Tell me what you're doing to prevent corrosion to the pan under the battery. Is cutting a bucket the only option? Is there anywhere to buy a bucket that fits perfectly in the area if thisns in fact the only option. |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9753 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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I don't know what you mean by "bucket". But you can try a marine supply store and see if they have a battery box/tray that might suit your needs.
Good Luck.
EDIT: You can look at some place like camping world as well for battery box ideas. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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What do you use? |
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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This was the battery box I bought and cut down for use in the car. Problem is pretty much any battery box you buy is going to be too big and end up rubbing against the insulation surrounding the heater y-pipe, mine got worn down so badly I had to buy new insulation, so I ended up removing the box and am running without it now. I don't see why that's any big deal, though I have considered one of those battery pads--I'd like to hear why it's a no-no. _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9753 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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Frodge wrote: |
What do you use? |
A replacement battery tray and a welder. In other words I just run the battery in the stock location and no protection other than the clamp.
Good Luck. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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I think the pads are OK if you check frequently. If it fills with acid it just becomes like a sponge I guess. A better question is has anyone had leakage of a battery in the last 10 years? Is it as common now as it was on older batteries 40-50 years ago. |
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7300 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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I just replaced a 3.5 year old battery that must've been leaking because there was a pile of battery acid dust at the base by the positive terminal. Had to clean all that up of course. So yes they can leak. _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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And it got all over the pan? |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51118 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Tim Donahoe Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2012 Posts: 11740 Location: Redding, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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A layer of Arm & Hammer baking soda won't hurt, either.
Tim _________________ Let's do the Time Warp again!
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Battery pad? |
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Right onto the floor? |
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