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 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 1:51 pm Post subject: 1302 convertible headliner install Qs |
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Hi,
My 1302 convertible came with 'spare' headliner which I set about fitting today but its thrown me a tad and i wonder if someone can help.
All vids I've seen and instructions show attaching the bottom of the headliner to the wooden bows, tacking or stapling from the outside.
Thats not a problem, but mine, although I'm fairly confident is correct, is different if that makes sense. Its got extra material that is used elsewhere to feed around the metal bows. It looks like it could be glued up to the bow(s) instead or as well as tacking. Which I think is how my original one was when I took it apart.
Its like I could thread something through the dark grey material if i had anything to feed through. If you ook closeley you can see where I have stapled mine in the middle.
But I want to make sure before i go too far with it, should I be wrapping the headliner around the wood and gluing ? Doing it the 'normal' way I would have thought you can see the wood from the inside.
My second Q is these side tension wires, what exactly do they do, most of the instructions I find don't mention these.
i'm asking as mines snapped so need to replace.
many thanks for looking,
PG
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bnam
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2016 5:15 pm Post subject: Re: 1302 convertible headliner install Qs |
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the side tension wires keep the edges above the window from flapping.
Are you asking specifically about the rear most wooden bow? |
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bnam
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 3:56 am Post subject: Re: 1302 convertible headliner install Qs |
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That black flap material is called the "listing." The listing is what is tacked to the rear wooden tacking strip (wooden bow). Mark the center of the listing and align the center of the listing with a corresponding mark you make on the center of the wooden bow. You staple the listing for 16.5" on either side of this center point along the bow.
The headliner material the is below the listing an is attached to the body.
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pgtips
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 4:06 am Post subject: Re: 1302 convertible headliner install Qs |
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yes thats right, the listing, but I've never seen it at the base of the headlining hence its thrown me.
The bottom woods cannot go through it and no instruction anywhere shows the headlining wrapped around the bottom wooden bows, only stapled like I have done.
It wouldn't matter too much but the rear bows are bolted down and tacked into place before anything is attached.
Maybe its not such a biggie but I was hoping someone could shed some light on it.
cheers
PG.
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bnam
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| Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2016 8:05 am Post subject: Re: 1302 convertible headliner install Qs |
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The wood does not go thru the listing. The listing is stapled/tacked to the top of the wood and the rest of the headliner hands down vertically in front of the bow. You've stapled the headliner instead.
The headliner on my car had white listing instead of the grey/black on your car. You can see that I've stapled it to the top of the rear tack strip/bow as seen in this picture.
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bnam
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:25 pm Post subject: Re: 1302 convertible headliner install Qs |
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Are you saying you have a 1303 headliner? They should be quite different in front.
My car is a 71 1302LS, so should be same as yours. You should have listings for 3 bows plus a listing for the rear tack strip.
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bnam
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1302 convertible headliner install Qs |
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Hi. Yes the rear bow, why is there extra grey material. Where does it go. If I staple the headlining I'm left with the soft grey material flapping about which would normally affix to a bow.
I wonder if I've got a 1303 hood or something, other headliners don't have this along the bottom, but everything else lines up (other 1302 bows.
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The grey listing is what is attached (stapled) to the top of the rear tack strip. That is NOT for a bow.
Repeating this as you seem to keep asking the same question.
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bnam
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2016 11:17 pm Post subject: Re: 1302 convertible headliner install Qs |
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PG,
Are you sure you have a 1971 model year headliner? The 1972 model year (Aug '71-Jul72) was a one year only top design. I don't think the '72 MY retained that wooden tack strip at the rear. It may have been replaced by a steel bow. So, you may have the wrong year headliner.
You may still be able to use it by stapling that listing to your wooden tack frame.
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