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typetwotool Samba Member
Joined: July 27, 2015 Posts: 43 Location: sonoma, Ca
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 9:57 am Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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You can check the resistance of the injectors (check Bentley) might confirm an issue before tearing everything down. _________________ Nathan
80 Vanagon
00 Eurovan
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Mr Brown Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 161 Location: Somewhere In Canada
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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2016 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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jpfahrstar wrote: |
Replacing the injectors requires removing the intake manifold. Right? How big a job is that? |
Not on the AAF engine anyway. I did the injector seals last year and it wasn't too bad to get at. Hardest part was getting the hoses off the fuel manifold. |
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visibleink Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2002 Posts: 1668 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:34 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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Summers420us wrote: |
Chime in if you have experienced cylinder 5 misfire codes for a bad injector. |
*chiming*
But I think on mine it was #3. _________________ Been on the samba so long I remember petting that dog to see VWs, WYHI, and green bug girl.
<-- Helga, she slammed her dub in '53 and adjusted valves with her teeth |
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jpfahrstar Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2003 Posts: 43 Location: Columbia, MD
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:48 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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Replacing the injectors requires removing the intake manifold. Right? How big a job is that? |
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Summers420us Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2010 Posts: 759 Location: Amissville, Virginia
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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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Chime in if you have experienced cylinder 5 misfire codes for a bad injector. _________________ 1997 EVC
1988 2WD Westfalia with OE 2.1 (R.I.P.) |
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Zeddy Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2016 Posts: 27
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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Id do the injectors. Its a bitch to get at them. You can rebuild, but if keeping for long term, just replace them all. If there are some decent used ones you pull out, maybe could sell them used to recoup the $1000 out the door |
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Summers420us Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2010 Posts: 759 Location: Amissville, Virginia
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Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:50 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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plugs look good.
Original wires were a bit beat. Replacements are perfecto! _________________ 1997 EVC
1988 2WD Westfalia with OE 2.1 (R.I.P.) |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22639 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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Don't trust OBD codes for misfires. Confirm by pulling wire , coils, and plug inspection. _________________ .ssS! |
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gakali Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 448 Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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To check for intake leaks spray something like parts cleaner around where the intake meets the head and listen for a change in RPM. Don't blow yourself up. A leak may not be very likely but worth checking for anyway.
Compression test all cylinders before messing with injectors. You can borrow a tester from some parts places. _________________ Why do it? Because you can.
1999 Eurovan
2003 A4 Avant 1.8T Quattro
1992 W201 190e 2.3 Mercedes
2006 W220 S600 V12 Twin Turbo 5.5 Mercedes |
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Summers420us Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2010 Posts: 759 Location: Amissville, Virginia
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Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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Ok... so to answer the questions above:
I know it is cylinder 5 from OBD.
I did not try swapping wires, instead I replaced with the new set and have the same error code.
Have not performed compression test.
Intake leak is interesting thing to check... how to check that?
Injector swap? Isn't it quite a bit of labor to get in there? Should I just replace with new? and do all the other while I am there? _________________ 1997 EVC
1988 2WD Westfalia with OE 2.1 (R.I.P.) |
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visibleink Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2002 Posts: 1668 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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I was in the same boat....it was the injector. _________________ Been on the samba so long I remember petting that dog to see VWs, WYHI, and green bug girl.
<-- Helga, she slammed her dub in '53 and adjusted valves with her teeth |
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gakali Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 448 Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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Compression test? Injector swap? Intake gasket leak at that cylinder? _________________ Why do it? Because you can.
1999 Eurovan
2003 A4 Avant 1.8T Quattro
1992 W201 190e 2.3 Mercedes
2006 W220 S600 V12 Twin Turbo 5.5 Mercedes |
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DenverB Samba Member
Joined: July 23, 2012 Posts: 704 Location: Denver, Colorado
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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i know it sound stupid, but have you tried swapping your new cables around just to make sure to see if the misfire follows a component?
i know they are new cables and plugs and all that, but even new stuff can be crappy out of the box. I've had enough crap cables in the last year to at least say you've got a chance of that being the case.... _________________ -------
'77 Transporter/camper (Bussy - Reef Blue/Pastel White)
'67 bug (Santos - VW Blue)
'84 Vanagon Westfalia (Pink Flamingo - Pastel White/Pink)
'88 Vanagon GL Westfalia (Frankie Says - Wolfram Gray)
'02 Eurovan Weekender (Green Apple)
'95-'03 Eurovan full campers and weekenders (rental fleet)
'84 -'91 Vanagon full campers and weekenders (rental fleet)
'72 Porsche 914 (Greta - RIP)
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22639 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:43 pm Post subject: Re: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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How do you know it's 5? Visual, inspection, or OBD? _________________ .ssS! |
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Summers420us Samba Member
Joined: June 14, 2010 Posts: 759 Location: Amissville, Virginia
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:30 pm Post subject: Cylinder 5 Misfire |
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Cylinder 5 misfire issue. I have replaced plugs, plug wires and coil pack. What else? _________________ 1997 EVC
1988 2WD Westfalia with OE 2.1 (R.I.P.) |
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