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Sage79
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 Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:08 am Post subject: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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Check out the hose behind the spare tire well on my '77. Does the "S" shape seem original or did a straight hose deform to that shape? The metal line from the front definitely slopes to the rear but the hose seems longer than a straight section would have been.
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skills@eurocarsplus
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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it correct, it just dropped. should be straight, but I have seen a few bent like that
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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That doesn't look like the OG hose, I suspect whoever changed it last didn't use enough lube and couldn't get the front section slid on far enough so they said "fu*k it" and left it like that.
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williamM
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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If you look inside the driverside air intake- you will se a little condenser that condenses the fuel vapor from the gas tank back to gas that runs down that tube and into the tank- SO- yup that has to be a good piece of line in there.
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Sage79
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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Oh--totally makes sense. The line needs to continually slope back to the gas tank, which it doesn't now.
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chimneyfish
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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This is useful on Ratwell:
http://www.ratwell.com/technical/FuelHoses.html#fitank
(I find it much easier to change that tricky piece of hose when the vehicle is jacked up onto axle stands - you then don't have to become a contortionist to do it).
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williamM
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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c fish is right- another hint in combination is to remove the stop light housing- then its a straight shot.
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Sage79
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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Replaced this hose and BD was right (again!). It was a totally shot replacement hose. All good now.
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CarlosZ
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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| It took me less than 5 minutes to replace. No need to remove anything unless you're super fat, out of shape or can't bend/kneel. I had to use a slightly longer piece. A little lube will help out a lot. |
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airkooledchris
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:02 am Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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| CarlosZ wrote: |
| It took me less than 5 minutes to replace. No need to remove anything unless you're super fat, out of shape or can't bend/kneel. I had to use a slightly longer piece. A little lube will help out a lot. |
Did you stick half your body into the engine bay? I don't get why it would matter if your fat.
Now if your a short short man with stubby little arms that might make it harder. At 6.2 I just reached in there and got it done, with my gut happily resting upon the rear valance.  |
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williamM
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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| CarlosZ wrote: |
| It took me less than 5 minutes to replace. No need to remove anything unless you're super fat, out of shape or can't bend/kneel. I had to use a slightly longer piece. A little lube will help out a lot. |
HEY I resemble that remark. 
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kooper271
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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| airkooledchris wrote: |
| CarlosZ wrote: |
| It took me less than 5 minutes to replace. No need to remove anything unless you're super fat, out of shape or can't bend/kneel. I had to use a slightly longer piece. A little lube will help out a lot. |
Did you stick half your body into the engine bay? I don't get why it would matter if your fat.
Now if your a short short man with stubby little arms that might make it harder. At 6.2 I just reached in there and got it done, with my gut happily resting upon the rear valance. |
What if you're short and fat? |
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CarlosZ
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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I must confess. I installed it with the engine out. I'm sure I could do it as easily with the engine in.  |
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stevespeirs
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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Could be a good time to replace mine. Might explain the faint smell of gas in the engine bay too.
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Wildthings
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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| WD40 makes a great lube for doing a job like this, helping lessen the effort necessary to get the hose to slide on to the tubing. Also I would recommend using 30r9 or 30r14 hoses as they can handle ethanol laced fuel over the long haul. |
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vwwestyman
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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| Wildthings wrote: |
| WD40 makes a great lube for doing a job like this, helping lessen the effort necessary to get the hose to slide on to the tubing. Also I would recommend using 30r9 or 30r14 hoses as they can handle ethanol laced fuel over the long haul. |
I've come to like using a little smear of dielectric silicone grease for these kinds of things. I suppose it doesn't matter much.
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stevespeirs
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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| Also I would recommend using 30r9 or 30r14 hoses as they can handle ethanol laced fuel over the long haul. |
I've got the Bus Depot 7mm hose and clamps. That'll work, right?
https://www.busdepot.com/n0202811
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busdaddy
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| Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Strange vapor hose behind spare tire well |
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| stevespeirs wrote: |
| Wildthings wrote: |
| Also I would recommend using 30r9 or 30r14 hoses as they can handle ethanol laced fuel over the long haul. |
I've got the Bus Depot 7mm hose and clamps. That'll work, right?
https://www.busdepot.com/n0202811 |
Does it say SAE J30-R9 or SAE J30-R14 on it?, if not I wouldn't waste the time to install it.
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