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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2016 5:49 pm    Post subject: Sealing case studs not in the manual Reply with quote

Getting ready to build an engine here, doing case prep here's something you may have seen but its not in the manual. To build a leak free engine it's in the details so consider this. Seal the studs from the inside of the case, look close at the four dark areas in each pic these are the back side of the studs. Once the sealant dries you have eliminated 8 potential leak areas.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:50 am    Post subject: Re: Sealing case studs not in the manual Reply with quote

That's a good idea, there. Although that area is not under pump pressure, it won't hurt. Did you a gasket sealer, you know, that tar-like Permatex stuff, or epoxy?

I remember coming across a few older cases where the stud borings did not intrude into the case and came that way from the factory. If you were able to see the stud it meant that they had been over tightened during a previous rebuild. Usually that wasn't worth worrying about as a source of leaking.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: Sealing case studs not in the manual Reply with quote

I might just go with blue Loctite there.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Sealing case studs not in the manual Reply with quote

KPottorff wrote:
That's a good idea, there. Although that area is not under pump pressure, it won't hurt. Did you a gasket sealer, you know, that tar-like Permatex stuff, or epoxy?

I remember coming across a few older cases where the stud borings did not intrude into the case and came that way from the factory. If you were able to see the stud it meant that they had been over tightened during a previous rebuild. Usually that wasn't worth worrying about as a source of leaking.


Yes I used aviation permatex and will let it dry about a week or so. Just being proactive to build a leak free engine. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:53 am    Post subject: Re: Sealing case studs not in the manual Reply with quote

I use liquid Teflon sealant that is designed to seal machine and pipe threads, externally on/under every nut/washer/stud and thread that has a path way to oil..
So just about every one I can .. on a VW..

I dont like using a sealant in an area that has constant contact within a wet area.
Too much potential of delamination and flaking off into the oil and causing issues.

I've witnessed that scenario happen too many times..
Sealant drops/flakes off and ends up a the pump screen and starves an engine for oil..

Im sure that all depends on the sealant used.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2016 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Sealing case studs not in the manual Reply with quote

VOLKSWAGNUT wrote:
I use liquid Teflon sealant that is designed to seal machine and pipe threads, externally on/under every nut/washer/stud and thread that has a path way to oil..
So just about every one I can .. on a VW..

I dont like using a sealant in an area that has constant contact within a wet area.
Too much potential of delamination and flaking off into the oil and causing issues.

I've witnessed that scenario happen too many times..
Sealant drops/flakes off and ends up a the pump screen and starves an engine for oil..

Im sure that all depends on the sealant used.

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That was my initial reaction as well. Permatex is meant to be used in a thin layer sandwiched between two mating parts. I see those pools of permatex eventually falling out. I don't know that I have ever had a problem of oil leaking around the cylinder studs. Threads need to sealed with a thread sealant applied to the thread before it is assembled.
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