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eashc Samba Member
Joined: April 10, 2012 Posts: 340 Location: Ventura County
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:46 pm Post subject: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Looking to get new tires and do a 2.5 spindle drop. Currently have 205/60/15 with stock beam. I did the drop spindles once before but rubbed on corners and when braking with just me in the car.
So I ask those in the know: do you think any of these sizes 155/60/15 or 175/55/15 will work without rubbing?
Plus I'm not looking to shorten the beam.
Here's a picture of current set up.
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ps2375 Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2014 Posts: 2471 Location: Meridian,ID
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 10:01 am Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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I had the same issue with 185/65-15's on the front of mine. You might get away with the 175's and will have an even better chance with the 155's, but no guarantee with either. As your wheel wheels will have a big impact on if either will work. With it lowered, does it look like the wheel will clear? |
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Projectp Samba Member
Joined: September 18, 2016 Posts: 41 Location: Abington, MA
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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I have 2.5 spindles with 155/60s and do not rub at all. |
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eashc Samba Member
Joined: April 10, 2012 Posts: 340 Location: Ventura County
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2016 9:20 pm Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Thanks guys. I'm guys try gonna try the 155's.
Just found this site: https://tiresize.com gives a pretty go look at tire sizes. |
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ps2375 Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2014 Posts: 2471 Location: Meridian,ID
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 6:22 am Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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You might be fine if you used wheels w/o those adapters, those have to push the wheel out some. You either have a narrowed beam or some wheels with favorable offset, cause those wheels look to come out to where my 5.5" wide wheels do on my stock beam. |
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eashc Samba Member
Joined: April 10, 2012 Posts: 340 Location: Ventura County
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 9:27 am Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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You're right about the adaptors. Forgot to mention them first. Hoping the 155 might be enough to slip in.
The 205/60 was just a little to wide.
I would like to find some used tires if possible just to test it out. But gonna do 155 for sure, and pray for the best. |
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16757 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 11:15 am Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Do NOT forget the the dropped spindles WILL push the wheels further out. I have a set on the VW woodie that were supposedly 0 offset. With 155/80s I ended up using stock wheels from maybe a type 3 that had a greater offset (almost 1/2" more than the original wheels) to tuck the wheels in as far as I could get and I still am not happy with the look.
So - you have several variables. The wheel offset, the offset of the spindles you buy and your tire size. If I drop a car a little and want to retain stock size tires and wheels, I use and adjust able beam. With wider that 4.5" wheels, I go with a 2 or 3" narrowed adjustable beam.
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eashc Samba Member
Joined: April 10, 2012 Posts: 340 Location: Ventura County
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 12:25 pm Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Yes. I'm aware that the tires will pop out more. I did put the spindles on once before, and it didn't rub to bad. That's why I'm hoping the 155's will fit under the fender better.
According to the tire calculator, it'll be narrower than what I have now.
The 1 is the 205/60/15; the 2 is 155/60/15
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ps2375 Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2014 Posts: 2471 Location: Meridian,ID
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Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Yes, a 205/-15 tire is narrower than a 155/60-15 tire by exactly 50mm at the tread. And you are only losing 1 inch of width at EACH edge, not from the outside only. |
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jason Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2016 11:19 am Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Maybe fix the bent wheel while you have it off. |
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eashc Samba Member
Joined: April 10, 2012 Posts: 340 Location: Ventura County
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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:56 pm Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Yes, I work on the dent for sure.
But got the tires yesterday, hope to mount them next week.
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candyflame73 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 7:53 am Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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ps2375 wrote: |
Yes, a 205/-15 tire is narrower than a 155/60-15 tire by exactly 50mm at the tread. And you are only losing 1 inch of width at EACH edge, not from the outside only. |
205 is the width of the tire, so the 205 is wider than a 155 tire. So, on the 155/60-15, 155 is the width in mm, the 60 is the aspect ratio for the heighth or sidewall and the 15 is the diameter. This is a cool sight that's very helpful for comparing two different size tires to see what might work for your application. Hope this helps. http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp By the way, I really like the color on your car......very cool! |
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esde Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:34 pm Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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You can get rotors and drums with a Porsche lug pattern. That would eliminate the adapters, and get you 1/2-3/4" per side back. It would also get the tire "scrub" back close to stock and lessen bump steer. _________________ modok wrote:
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eashc Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Well I got the tires mounted. Now to take the front apart. Maybe after thanksgivings.
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ps2375 Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2014 Posts: 2471 Location: Meridian,ID
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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candyflame73 wrote: |
ps2375 wrote: |
Yes, a 205/-15 tire is narrower than a 155/60-15 tire by exactly 50mm at the tread. And you are only losing 1 inch of width at EACH edge, not from the outside only. |
205 is the width of the tire, so the 205 is wider than a 155 tire. So, on the 155/60-15, 155 is the width in mm, the 60 is the aspect ratio for the heighth or sidewall and the 15 is the diameter. This is a cool sight that's very helpful for comparing two different size tires to see what might work for your application. Hope this helps. http://www.rimsntires.com/specspro.jsp By the way, I really like the color on your car......very cool! |
Sorry, I put those tir widths in there backwards. Thinking faster than I can type.
Thanks, color is a GM Sierra Blue. |
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ps2375 Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2014 Posts: 2471 Location: Meridian,ID
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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After measuring my wheels for backspacing, I'm thinking I might be able to get them to clear with a different backspacing. Current wheels have a 3 5/8" backspacing, there are some alloys available with over 4" of backspacing and the same 5.5" width.
Not sure where your backspacing sits with those wheels and adapters.
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eashc Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:09 am Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Finally finished it up. Came nice. I may have been able to run the 175/55/15 tires and been ok. I went small just to be safe.
No rubbing and handles good.
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ps2375 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:36 am Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Interesting, when I put my drop spindles on, it put the fender lip within 2" of the tire. I guess the over 2" reduction in tire height allowed that extra clearance you appear to have. This is good info to have seen. |
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eashc Samba Member
Joined: April 10, 2012 Posts: 340 Location: Ventura County
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:05 am Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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I was a little worried that it may not work but it came out good. Wish I didn't have the gap but I'm cool with it.
Final specs are:
155/60/15 tires
Stock beam
2.5 dropped spindles
5.5 rims with adaptors
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johnR Samba Member
Joined: August 25, 2009 Posts: 668 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: 2.5 dropped spindles with stock beam. Guidance Please |
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Just FYI, those rims are 6.0 inches wide (6jx15 Cookie Cutters ET36). Nice looking car! |
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