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 Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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| The description on the WW site says they are also German. I used the WW without problems so far (1 year). |
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67ctbug
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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Allright so they are both German so they are most likely the same?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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I'd say equally important or more so is the installation technique: not overtightening, lining up the split correctly, taking up the stress before tightening the end clamp, etc.
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67ctbug
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 5:53 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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The split is set up at 2-3 o'clock right?
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:22 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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| The split is set up at 2-3 o'clock right? |
2-10 it really doesn't make a difference. Just not vertical horizontal or the split at the bottom. Of course someone will chime in and say 2 is the correct way and then another will say 10 is correct. They just need to flex without pulling the boot from the trans due to incorrect installation.
The comment regarding taking the stress off the boot is correct. Also when you tighten the clamps on the axles make sure to push the boot about a 1/2" toward the trans. That too will help relieve stress on the boots.
Good Luck.
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67ctbug
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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Allright so, either is good, 2-10 (as long as it isn't too center or on the bottom center), and move it in a half inch toward the trans. Got it!
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| Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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One last question... the WW made by WW floor seal or the CIP1 German one.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:35 am Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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I'm not sure what options there are for split boots these days. What brands are you guys seeing for sale? I think I have like 3 of them in the basement, all FEBI. The Febis are "OK" but I've always thought they were bit soft/thin on their rubber. I remember one other brand, I think TeGuFa??, that were thicker/beefier overall, but I also remember they were more prone to dry-rot/cracking.
I put the stock style Brazil/Orion brand, non-split boots on my 62 a few years ago at the same time that I put in new side gears and fulcrum plates. Last year at some point I realized that I didn't set one of them up properly when I pinched the clamps, and that one was slightly twisted, and had worn a small hole near the top of the boot.  I don't drive the car a lot and it really doesn't leak so I left it for the time being. I 've actually been thinking about trying a tire patch on the spot, rather than go back to a split boot.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:10 am Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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| One last question... the WW made by WW floor seal or the CIP1 German one. |
I'd get the WW. You'll have to punch the holes in it. I made a punch out of an aluminum piece of scrap pipe but they sell the punch's for not much money. I bought a rubber steering coupler that was supposed to be German and paid the higher amount from cip. It wasn't. Unfortunately I didn't check or use it for 6 months after purchase. If you look at the ad it says "German equivalent". |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:14 am Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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Both WW it is then. Thanks guys!
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 9:42 am Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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Okay, still Febi then. WW is where I got the last set or two from a few years ago, and they were Febi.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 10:15 am Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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I've been running a set of the Febi boots from WW on my '60 for close to four years now, no leaks and they're holding up very well.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 11:32 am Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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I've never heard of febi, are they good?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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| "That's a Bingo" ! ... Good German stuff. |
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67ctbug
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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Oh good, I was hoping it wasn't some Brazilian garbage  . WW it is.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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They are allied with Bilstein, the shock absorber company and they make some steering/suspension parts.
My main complaint is the damn pinch clamps they come with. On split boots I find it much easier to use screw clamps, so in the past I've always re-used them if that was what was on the car before rather than use the pinch style.
They haven't changed their rubber moulds in years - they still say Volkswagen on one side and Made in West Germany on the other.
Here's a photo I just took of what you get and detail of the sealing edges:
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| Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: What Axle Boots? |
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Those look great! Mine has split ones that are torn, I'll see what clamps they have.
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