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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:52 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

Little update...

I've had this wheel for awhile now, spline adapter should be here this week from Greece
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Got a great deal on these SS6's, so the rear is getting bagged - just filling with schraders for now. I do plan to do the fronts in the near future as well...so I guess my springs are for sale. If you are looking for H&R purples, PM me
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In case anyone was wondering - you can fit a Recaro LXF in a standard sized suitcase and come in under weight (for Air Canada at least). It does need to come apart a bit though, but mine needs foam repair anyways (and I'm steaming/cleaning/getting the logo re-embroidered/installing heater)
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I also got my hands on a full set of side cladding and the rest of the spoiler bits I needed (Thanks Barry!). I'm going to have to modify the driver side to work with my slider
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Maybe some pics of the actual van soon, lol!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

Cool project with lots of nice goodies!

I mostly looked at the photos perhaps 1/2 of the words in this thread, so forgive me if this has been addressed. Did VW ever make a model with double doors AND either a sunroof or pop-top above? I ask because it seems with big holes in the body for doors both left and right, would adding another big hole in the roof make this van concerningly flexible over bumps other conditions that would stress the body?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

According to another thread, they were originally German police vehicles:

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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=6794836
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

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According to another thread, they were originally German police vehicles:


That's pretty cool! I'd love to see one. I wonder if they got any added reinforcement in the floor or the sides of the roof to add strength and make up for the significant lack of steel...? Think

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

The sunroof vans have a steel roof reinforcement panel inside the ceiling under the headliner. It extends on all sides of the roof opening. This also creates the pocket that the roof slides back into when it is retracted. The rear headroom is slightly reduced in sunroof vans.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

It's nice to finally see someone adding cladding instead of deleting it, which has become all too fashionable of late.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

Cool build.

If you end up 3D printing speaker grilles for your front doors, I'd be interested in buying a set!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

How’s the build going Rorygirl? Give us an update with pics please! Do you have a project completion target?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

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How’s the build going Rorygirl? Give us an update with pics please! Do you have a project completion target?


Eyeballs deep in bodywork right now (and have been taking a break)...will be hopping back on it this weekend. I have both rear fenders/firewall/front fenders cut out. Buy a van with NO RUST, lol

I'll get some pics of something soon, installing some T3 plasma gauges at the moment.

I don't think it will ever be "completed" - but I aim to be driving in April.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

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Ride-Fly wrote:
How’s the build going Rorygirl? Give us an update with pics please! Do you have a project completion target?


Eyeballs deep in bodywork right now (and have been taking a break)...will be hopping back on it this weekend. I have both rear fenders/firewall/front fenders cut out. Buy a van with NO RUST, lol

I'll get some pics of something soon, installing some T3 plasma gauges at the moment.

I don't think it will ever be "completed" - but I aim to be driving in April.


You know, I abide by that remark! I have been looking to add a second Vanagon to my collection and have looked at a bunch. If it even has a hint of seam rust, I pass! What especially raises my alarm bells is when a van has been repainted in the past, yet there are specs of seam rust coming through the paint. Saw several of those in person, and had to pass. Even though there were two that I really would have liked to purchase.

I have just decided I’m no longer getting the 2nd Vanagon for reasons I addressed in my other thread.

With my current westy, I go very lucky. Not a spec of rust on my native Southern California rig when I bought it. After a dozen years in Colorado and Oregon, it developed a small patch on the window frame, but I took care of that when I got it repainted last year.

I am mighty impressed by your work! Where did you learn how do all that? Jeez, I get intimidated by any sort of body work. I’m usually willing to do mechanical and electrical work on my Westy but no can do for body work!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

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I am mighty impressed by your work! Where did you learn how do all that? Jeez, I get intimidated by any sort of body work. I’m usually willing to do mechanical and electrical work on my Westy but no can do for body work!


Err - about that bodywork...I guess I need to get back on it! Embarassed I'm definitely an amateur, but with the right tools and internet access I find it comes out looking half decent. Good thing this isn't a Ferrari or something, lol

Picking the right product the first time is important too as I'm finding out with the Pettit rust paint I used on most of my parts and half of the underside. I've stripped most of it off as it was just sh1t. 2 part epoxy priming and powdercoating what I can myself now.

Guess what....more parts pics as proof of life that this isn't an abandoned project!

My front bags came in. Slam Specialties SS5s
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I got some Koni reds for the front. I might run the stock springs for a bit to get a baseline alignment, but these will eventually be mounted outside of the control arm as others have done
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I pulled the trigger on a MyCar VS-4LU-1 which is the Canadian spec (and originator I think) of the CarLink ASCL6 smartphone app/GPS tracker I outlined here. I'm still deciding on the alarm.
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Here's the flooring I'm using, some sort of vinyl - it's pretty thin. I got a box of it at the Restore for $20, it's enough for my needs. Not sure on the subfloor yet.
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I've been keeping an eye out for some big ass round fog lights as I really like the contrast to the squares, a la Tristar Eric.
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Picked up these aluminum bodied JDM FET LandMaster 216ALBs locally for what I think was a deal. No stone guards, but I'm working on some 3D printed ones now. 216mm = 8.5 inches
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I always jump when I see a cheap Thule gutter mount rack (I got some for free too)...so I'm pretty set for either situation. Also because Volvo 745s in my past, lol
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:50 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

Garage floor needs work
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

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Don't get distracted. We need your build way more than Garage Journal needs your floor repair.

Also, I see some sort of high/low combo possibility here. Low in front, high in back or maybe a double-decker rack (it is a double slider, no?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 4:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

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Also, I see some sort of high/low combo possibility here. Low in front, high in back or maybe a double-decker rack (it is a double slider, no?


I don't think I have a need for a double-decker rack...but I am going for a "dual/double" sort of theme.

I've been on the lookout for a twin of the Rocketbox I have, but it hasn't materialized yet and my Thule luck has continued - getting this XL box for free (it does have bolts in it from solar panels and a small crack and it's locked, lol). So I think for now the roof is single and the Rocketbox gets sold to finance more parts. I do have 2 100W solar panels, but I'm not sure how I'm mounting those yet - probably not on the box.
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Speaking of new parts, I did get a Marco oil pump
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And back to the double stuff, I've been collecting these metal futon frames that have been popping up for free, because I don't know about you - but I see a couple of swing-outs in them.
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I've got 3 frames, so 6 of those ends (2" OD) and the thing I like about them is that they're light gauge (more than strong enough to hold boxes or wheels...or a fat-ass on a futon, lol). One entire futon frame with hinges and everything weighs less than the Pathfinder carrier. So that's moving on as well...If you're on Vancouver Island and want it or a Gary Lee rack, hit me up.

And also for free, to put on those swing-outs I'll make (next year sometime, after I get it out of the damn garage!), I got these 2 WeatherGuard boxes that were bolted together in an E350. They're 20x20x17.5. Obviously need a little welding and hammer work to get rid of the mounting holes, and I'm going to put on different locks/latches. These could be the only thing on my van that sees bed-liner.
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I'm still looking for an OEM AMG 8.5 for cheap, and when I eventually find it I'll have the double spares probably over the rear window. I need to take pics of the double-ness I've got for the interior, but they're a bit buried now. Smile Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

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I'm still looking for an OEM AMG 8.5 for cheap

Had to go back a few pages to check out which AMG wheels you were talking about. Hope you don't mind me quoting this pic with the cute dog Smile
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Serious parts collection you've got going! Look forward to seeing it come together.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 12:53 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

So...this is happening. DM me if you want to get in on some WBX parts before I list them.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 06, 2021 1:28 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

Nice engine. How's the ground clearance with that swap?
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Not great...but with the bags, I'm not too worried. I am considering a shortened oil pan, we'll see.
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Nice. I used to have a VR6 Jetta. What a smooth wonderful engine!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 1991 Double door pop top conversion Reply with quote

My WBX stuff is up in the classifieds

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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2442680

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