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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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You need to get your timing mark set according to Ratwell and then once the timing is right worry about the other stuff. |
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NoBudgetVWGarage Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2008 Posts: 755 Location: Quartz Hill,CA
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Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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Ok. Got the engine running and starting a while whole lot better.
Timing is currently set at 28 degrees at full advance.
My carbs were not tunes up enough to get it going previously.
I filed on Mark to see it better.
I'm going to check the valves now then mess with the carbs once she warms up. _________________ 1969 Transporter
1968 Ghia
1959 Ghia Hot VW Drag Car |
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NoBudgetVWGarage Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2008 Posts: 755 Location: Quartz Hill,CA
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 11:44 am Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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Working on Toaster now. ( Bus in my sig)
Same deal. At idle the timing Mark is at 28... full advance and it's past 40.
If I time it down to where it's supposed to be it starts popping and backfiring through driver side carb and exhaust.
I have video of it. I'll try to post it. _________________ 1969 Transporter
1968 Ghia
1959 Ghia Hot VW Drag Car |
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nemobuscaptain Samba Member
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NoBudgetVWGarage Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:47 pm Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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Back at it. Trying to get ready for Prado/Blackstar Campout.
I changed my intake gaskets with new ones from CB Performance. Helped with the adjustment of the carbs and no more popping out of the exhaust.
While I had the engine out and apart I double checked my timing marks
The timing situation is still the same. Idle is around 28 degrees and at high rpm it goes off the scale past 40 degrees. I'll rev the RPM's up and try to lower the timing to a decent level and I get a bunch of popping through the carbs with flames and runs like crap. Beginning to think the distributor (009) may be at fault? Seems to run great where it is, but I need to know where my timing is to feel comfortable. _________________ 1969 Transporter
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1959 Ghia Hot VW Drag Car |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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I would march those spark plug wires around the cap one notch and see what happens.
I would find a better distributor (it would hard to find a worse one). |
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busman78 Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2004 Posts: 4524 Location: Oklahoma City, OK
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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Verify you have a bus pulley and not a 914. Verify that the pulley is on correctly and the alignment dowel is not out of place.
Take the right valve cover off find true TDC via the #1 valves, mark the pulley with chalk at TDC then do it again to verify. |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:59 pm Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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The mark is properly located as shown in this photo
The mark you are using isn't doesn't appear to be even close to what this photo shows. |
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NoBudgetVWGarage Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 1:02 pm Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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That is how I verified my timing Mark while the engine was out. Pulley is original to my bus. Home sick today with food poisoning.. so maybe a little later today I'll go out and mess with it again. _________________ 1969 Transporter
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nemobuscaptain Samba Member
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Westfalia73 Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2016 Posts: 121 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:56 am Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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nemobuscaptain wrote: |
Wildthings wrote: |
The mark is properly located as shown in this photo
The mark you are using isn't doesn't appear to be even close to what this photo shows. |
For a second there, I thought I was crazy. Glad it isn't just me. |
WT and NBC I agree with you that the timing mark looks to be well off in the op's picture, that picture is deceiving though, just to be sure in my own mind I went out into the garage and eyeballed mine and it is not in the same position as the op's pic _________________ 1973 tintop westfalia weekender.
1973 beetle.
1981 Brazilian baywindow kombi. |
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Tcash Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2011 Posts: 12844 Location: San Jose, California, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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NoBudgetVWGarage if you timing light has a little dial on it? Set it to (0). |
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NoBudgetVWGarage Samba Member
Joined: November 27, 2008 Posts: 755 Location: Quartz Hill,CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:39 am Post subject: Re: 009 Timing, I'm Sorry. |
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No Dial on the timing light. I'm going to double check the timing marks on BOTH of the busses i'm working on.
I see in the one pic I took above I may be referenced wrong (Oarnge 72- 1.7L)
Mine I double checked the mark when the pulley was off last week. (Blue 72- 2.0L)
but will do it again to confirm.
The Blue 72 (profile pic) made the trek to BlackStar this past weekend with no issues. Just don't like not knowing where i'm at. _________________ 1969 Transporter
1968 Ghia
1959 Ghia Hot VW Drag Car |
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