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Bocajoe Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2009 Posts: 21 Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:24 am Post subject: How much should I pay for a Brazilian Crew Cab 1986 |
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How much should I pay for a Brazilian Crew Cab 1986, this was the last year of the crew cab bay window in Brazil.
Thanks. |
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Brian Samba Moderator
Joined: May 28, 2012 Posts: 8340 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Depends on how much rust it has. Have any pictures? _________________ Wash your hands
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16802 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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1/2 mill _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5778 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Is this truck already registered in the US, or will you be importing it and registering it yourself? I was just researching this for another pickup to come to the US.
If it is in Brazil, you can figure $2000 to get it here, a 25% duty on trucks, and the purchase price, then it's in the country.
Now, since it is a new as 1986, there are other issues if you are importing it. You will have to have a manufacturer's statement that it meets DOT standards, and EPA will want to have a look at the emissions. Then there is NHTSA.
If it is already here, then you can forget the ocean transport, duty, and all that other paperwork.
The purchase price depends on its condition and rarity. It's certainly rare in the US. What is its condition? Rust-free? Well maintained? Look at the prices for comparable crew cabs from the '70s in the classifieds, then add $10,000 for its collector value. _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
http://vw.tauxe.net
1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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babysnakes Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2008 Posts: 7104
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Joe, I'm in Boca. PM me. If it is near by I'll help you look it over, figure out it's worth. Oh. and no, I'm not interested in it, I have too many bus projects as it is. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16802 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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babysnakes would be your best bet. he knows where all the rust hides in these trucks _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5778 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
babysnakes would be your best bet. he knows where all the rust hides in these trucks |
Yeah - he can show you the "cutaway view" of one! _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
http://vw.tauxe.net
1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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Bocajoe Samba Member
Joined: February 06, 2009 Posts: 21 Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys for the imputs. So I think that for a good example the 20 to 23k will be around right.
For the EPA , DOT and other requirements, I was thinking that was only for car less than 25 years old.
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old DKP driver Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2005 Posts: 4145 Location: Los Gatos,Ca.
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Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2015 11:51 pm Post subject: Rust |
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Rust Does not hide anywhere in FLORIDA .....
and I have only been there ONCE _________________ V.W.owner since 1967 |
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babysnakes Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:09 am Post subject: |
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skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
babysnakes would be your best bet. he knows where all the trucks hide in the rust. |
Fixed it for ya! |
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secretsubmariner Champagne Wrangler
Joined: January 08, 2011 Posts: 3104 Location: Tulsa, OK
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ToolBox Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 3439 Location: Detroit, where they don't jack parts off my ride in the parking lot of the 7-11
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:22 am Post subject: |
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This one sold for $26K a few years ago. |
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16802 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:47 am Post subject: |
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babysnakes wrote: |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
babysnakes would be your best bet. he knows where all the trucks hide in the rust. |
Fixed it for ya! |
I love you! _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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babysnakes Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16922 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Get a room guys _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
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Airbus A319,320,321
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16802 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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aeromech wrote: |
Get a room guys |
we were waiting for the fluffer to show up _________________
gprudenciop wrote: |
my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
Jake Raby wrote: |
Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
Brian wrote: |
Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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Nobody answered him about the 25 year rule> I think it is exempt.
(10 years ago I imported 2 1996 Jeeps from England. They both had EPA stickers, I think, but OBVIOUSLY NEITHER HAD DOT approval. I presented the paperwork at the dock. Waited and hour and drove them home. Drove on Emgland plates for a while then Iowa inspected and gave me title. Never changed anything. Still has RHD headlights DUH!)
Maybe things changed since then? This was at Dundalk, MD. (Baltimore)
It seems to me that Overland Parts brought in as many as 10 in about 1986. A few were for sale over the years. They brought in disassembled in containers, I have no idea how they titled them.
If in the US, this could be one of those 10. Pretty nice vehicle, a combination of Bay and splittie with more modern electricals, etc. DRUM brakes with booster.
I don't think you'd have to pay more than $15k for it though. It's an orphan here.
Al _________________ Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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babysnakes Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2008 Posts: 7104
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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From the EPA's website;
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Section 3: Exclusions
Some vehicles are exc
luded from the motor vehicle emission requirements of the Clean
Air Act. Reasons for exclusion include vehicle age (i.e., manufactured prior to the regulations),
fuel type, maximum speed, exclusive use for competition or racing, or lack of features associ
ated
with practical street or highway use. Please note that some vehicles excluded from the motor
vehicle requirements may be subject to non-road vehicle and emission standards which have
become effective in recent years.
3.1
Vehicles at Least 21 Years
Old
A vehicle is exempted
if
it has been 21 years or more since its original production year
and it is in its
original unmodified condition. Vehicles in any condition may be excluded if they
were manufactured prior to the year in which EPA's regulations for the class of vehicle took
effect. Vehicles at least 21 years old with replacement engines are not eligible for this
exemption unless they contain equivalent or newer EPA certified engines and emission control
systems. Upon entry, the importer must file an EPA Form 3520-1 with Customs and declare
code "E" on the form. |
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5778 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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A vehicle of this age will be exempt from the EPA and DOT requirements, but the paperwork still has to get filled out.
The 25% tariff still applies.
I've been looking into all this pretty hard over the last week, since now that Snickers is sold, I am looking for my next conquest, and it is not in the USA. Yet. _________________ John
"Travelling in a fried-out Kombi, on a hippie trail, head full of zombie..." - Colin Hay and Ron Strykert
http://vw.tauxe.net
1969 Transporter, 1971 Westfalia, 1976, 1977, 1976, 1977, 1971, 1973, 1977 Westfalias,
1979 Champagne Sunroof, 1974 Westfalia Automatic, 1979 Transporter, 1972 Sportsmobile, 1973 Transporter Wild Westerner, 1974 Westfalia parts bus, 1975 Mexican single cab *FOR SALE*, 1978 Irish 4-door double cab RHD
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Alan Brase Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 4532 Location: Cedar Falls, Iowa
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Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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jtauxe wrote: |
A vehicle of this age will be exempt from the EPA and DOT requirements, but the paperwork still has to get filled out.
The 25% tariff still applies.
I've been looking into all this pretty hard over the last week, since now that Snickers is sold, I am looking for my next conquest, and it is not in the USA. Yet. |
The 4 door double cab is DONE?
Al _________________ Al Brase
Projects: 67 sunroof bug, 67 Porsche 912 Targa, 70 Westy
Dec 1955 Single Cab pickup WANT 15" BUS RIMS dated 8/55, thru 12/55
To New owners: 1969 doublecab, 1971 Dormobile
Vanagons:
80 P27 Westy JUL 1979, 3rd oldest known US
83 1.6TD Vanagon, 87 Wolfie Westy daily driver, swap meet home |
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