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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:54 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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EMPI.....
Three cuts, four screw driver wedges, one c clamp, a jack, and a welder and it fits now!
Yes, i know there is a single carb set up on the motor now, i have another new engine i just built with a modified solex that Alstrup helped me with. I am completely setting the car up to accept either engine.
I have had two cars with dual Webers and i hated them both, my confidence is low that this time will be any different, so i am getting prepared in advance. |
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kangaboy Samba Member
Joined: August 28, 2010 Posts: 1062 Location: St. Louis, Mo
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Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:25 am Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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Fuel Injection....Crank Fire Ignition.... _________________ -74 Standard - "CaliBug" 2084T, MS3X w/FI and Crank Fire
-76 Westy - "Gandalf"
-18 GTI SE
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that fucking thing looks like it drove through a J.C. Whitney catalogue and hit everything on the way out |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26740 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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Glad to see your still going.
Better slow than never and I'm no better.
the 36 idfs were always absolute sweethearts for me, but if not, please do let me know and we'll figure it out. Each engine and setup is a little different.
I sold a set of the larger ones to Oprn and he had problems with not enough fuel at idle, and had to drop the fuel pressure......which I never had problems with that myself, but now he's running great. Better than fuel injection. easy to say, hard to believe, but believe it.
I just flow tested 7 sets of dual port end castings. Do they all flow the same? actually no. I found one left that flows a true 10% more than most, picked up some more now looking for a right to match |
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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:22 am Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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modok wrote: |
Glad to see your still going.
Better slow than never and I'm no better.
the 36 idfs were always absolute sweethearts for me, but if not, please do let me know and we'll figure it out. Each engine and setup is a little different.
I sold a set of the larger ones to Oprn and he had problems with not enough fuel at idle, and had to drop the fuel pressure......which I never had problems with that myself, but now he's running great. Better than fuel injection. easy to say, hard to believe, but believe it.
I just flow tested 7 sets of dual port end castings. Do they all flow the same? actually no. I found one left that flows a true 10% more than most, picked up some more now looking for a right to match |
Thanks for the confidence builder Modok, i have never doubted that you would be there to help if i needed it. You have been a tremendous help with this project already!
The other two cars i had both had Spanish 40's and i swear of all 4 carbs, not one had both throttle plates in the same plane.
After bench setting the 36's, i would say they are both off as well, as exposing exactly the same amount of transfer port on both plates in a carb is impossible, but they are MUCH closer than the Spanish 40's.
I am still moving along slowly, hernia really slowed me down for a while. The 36's will go back on after i get the heat risers fitted, manifold to header and the tube bent and welded to put the #4 side to the collector so it actually works. Trying to make everything interchangeable between engines. |
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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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A bit of progress this weekend.
Fabricated some front body mounts since there was really no way to secure the front outside corners
Got the Sync link all installed, which required a bit of re-machining to work with the 36 idf's. The drivers side carb bracket was to short to reach the cables out to the pulley, some new holes and some tapping required to get another .300" of reach.
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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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Well, Got the steering column holes drilled and the support from Berrien installed. Also got the body on and fabbed some rear body mounts as well as fronts that double as mounting points for the fuel tank clamps.
Had to do some more grinding and a bit of shimming to get all 4 corners the same height with the same fender to tire clearance.
Hit the go kart guys for some nice conical washers for all the mounts.
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Phat73 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2018 Posts: 95 Location: Victoria BC
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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very nice! _________________ I succeed because I fail. |
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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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Had a bit of time off for the holiday's, so made some bits of progress. Finished welding the header and sent it to one of our vendors for Cerakote, could have bought 3 more headers for what that cost. The muffler is actually a chambered turbo, not a glasspack.
Ordered a wiring harness from dune buggy bros in Florida. I asked for some details to be changed like all the grounds to a common bar and a few others. That didn't work out, either they didn't understand, or didn't read my messages through. Extensive modifications required to make it work.
The steering column turned out good, and i am happy with the front turn signals i found.
I should add that the harness is actually extremely well made, I am sure if you order a standard harness you would be happy. I just didn't want separate grounds and i wanted the horn button on the wheel to work so i added a relay. I also added the tach wiring and wiring for a possible future revolution fuel pump controller. These are the things that did not work out so well.
Made decent progress on the wiring though, running the tach wires in the tunnel was a pain! Just a bit more unwrapping and re-wrapping to get things where they should be.
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cudabear Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2012 Posts: 65 Location: Lk Mary FL
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:17 am Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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2 thoughts on your build from experiences , the seats you chose are very narrow. I used the same ones to get that old school buggy look I had to cut them in half from top to bottom and widen them 3 inches and the covers still fit . It was no big deal if your good with fiberglass. Also why did you place your front beam adjustor on top, the body may be in the way to make adjustments. It’s wide open on the bottom beam |
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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:49 am Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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I actually love the seats, with the padding i made on them, they fit me perfectly.
I put the adjuster in the top because If i chose the bottom it could be seen even with the hood on, and it is not pleasant to look at.
There are no issues adjusting it, even with the hood on, plenty of room. |
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WMAGRU Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2013 Posts: 28 Location: St. George, Utah
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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Very nice job! Regarding the wiring harness from the Dune Buggy Brothers, I believe he provides a tach wire for use later on. It's a purple wire included with the dash cluster. He also provides an accessory wire next to the tach wire for use with a radio or whatever you want to use it for. When I wired mine the "plug and play" harness actually made the job easy and fun. As you mentioned, he provides a quality product.
The detail you have included in your project is awesome. I look forward to following your updates. Very impressive. |
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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:08 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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WMAGRU wrote: |
Very nice job! Regarding the wiring harness from the Dune Buggy Brothers, I believe he provides a tach wire for use later on. It's a purple wire included with the dash cluster. He also provides an accessory wire next to the tach wire for use with a radio or whatever you want to use it for. When I wired mine the "plug and play" harness actually made the job easy and fun. As you mentioned, he provides a quality product.
The detail you have included in your project is awesome. I look forward to following your updates. Very impressive. |
It's all true, but i asked for some special details like running the tach wires under the fuel tank to the tunnel so i could mount the tach on the tunnel and bring the wires to it through the tunnel, so there would be no visible wire.
It was made so the pigtail dropped out under the fuse box which would have been visible running to the tach. It would have worked, just wasn't what I wanted, and I did pay a fair amount extra for some of the details.
I unwrapped it, lengthened some wires and shortened and removed some extras. Then I re-sorted them to get the 6 leads i needed for the revolution pump controller and pump pigtails which were not there. He did do wires for an electric fuel pump, but wired direct, which is not at all safe in my opinion. I can't imagine much worse than surviving a crash only to burn. I started re-wrapping them, Almost done now.
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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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Some REAL progress this weekend...
Got the brakes adjusted and bled, E brake cables shortened and adjusted. I also finished the fuel pump install with the Revolution controller and buttoned up the fuel tank and hoses.
Then I installed my battery box and battery along with the spare tire mount and tool bag bracket I made.
Installed the fuel filler and bolted the hood down, then the wipers. Once the headlights were on it really stated looking like a CAR!!
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AirKooledGarage Samba Member
Joined: September 28, 2012 Posts: 314 Location: Wisco
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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Love the yellow! _________________ 1973 Bus
1974 Long Body Buggy (sold)
1965 Manxish buggy (kids car)
1961 Patina Bug |
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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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Got the dash finished today....finally. The wiper motor and the fuel gauge vibrator did not want to get along in there!
I tried to just keep it simple:
Also fabbed up a filler for under the column by using the cutout and glassing a panel to the back, then a couple of speed nuts to screw it in place.
Getting close, won't be long now!! |
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clonebug Samba Member
Joined: January 29, 2005 Posts: 4026 Location: NW Washington
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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:56 am Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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Looking good Rod..........now you just need a turbo. _________________
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Take a good long look in the mirror and report back on what you see. |
Paul.H wrote: |
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My Megasquirt Fuel Injection Turbo Buggy Build
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http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=127936 |
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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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clonebug wrote: |
Looking good Rod..........now you just need a turbo. |
Don't think I haven't thought about it. I have a new case, some forged tw 88's and a set of lightened rods and mexico 043 heads that Modok did up for me, sitting in the garage.............probably talked myself out of a turbo over 100 times by now. |
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rubenski Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2014 Posts: 100 Location: belgium
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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rodjr wrote: |
clonebug wrote: |
Looking good Rod..........now you just need a turbo. |
probably talked myself out of a turbo over 100 times by now. |
Why??? |
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rodjr Samba Member
Joined: October 12, 2015 Posts: 223 Location: stanwood washington
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:48 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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It is a very,very deep rabbit hole.
starts with a simple 1679 cc draw through with 6lbs boost, and ends with a tf1 cased, roller cam, 2387 cc, blow through on e85 and 25 lbs boost, and no retirement account.
I know that once i start down the path of the dark side, forever will it dominate my destiny. |
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joescoolcustoms Samba Member
Joined: August 08, 2006 Posts: 9054 Location: West By God Virginia
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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: my pan shortening adventure, and slow build |
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rodjr wrote: |
It is a very,very deep rabbit hole.
starts with a simple 1679 cc draw through with 6lbs boost, and ends with a tf1 cased, roller cam, 2387 cc, blow through on e85 and 25 lbs boost, and no retirement account.
I know that once i start down the path of the dark side, it will forever dominate my destiny. |
Well stated. _________________ Bad News Racing 2018 NORRA 1000 3rd in Class
Best Day Ever Racing 2022 NORRA 1000 2nd in Class and first All Female team to complete the race
Everyone is gifted. Some just do not open the package.
Looks like it was painted with a live chicken,polished with a brick and buffed with a pine cone |
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