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Sharp64 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5304 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:49 am Post subject: Accelerator pump diaphragm question |
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I am "rebuilding" a 30PICT-1 solex carb. I have a rebuild kit, and yes I know they aren't the same quality as the OG ones, but its what I have. In looking at the AP diaphragm, the one in the carb doesn't have any rips or tears, but it is a different material and rather rigid compared to the one that comes in the rebuild kit. The one in the carb is more of an orangish color whereas the rebuild is black rubber.
Id rather use what's there, but is the rigidness supposed to be like that? When I pulled the other 30PICT-1 apart that I have, it had the same sort of rubberish diaphragm.. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator pump diaphragm question |
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rigid is not good, it needs to flex. If you search the classifieds there are original solex diaphragms for sale sometimes. _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
tasb wrote: |
I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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sb001 wrote: |
maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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Sharp64 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 5304 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:00 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator pump diaphragm question |
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60ragtop wrote: |
rigid is not good, it needs to flex. If you search the classifieds there are original solex diaphragms for sale sometimes. |
So the one on the left isn't original? When I say rigid, it does move, its just not as flexible as the one on the right. Kind of like the difference between card stock and notebook paper... When I assemble it with the one on the left the accelerator arm still moves in and out well. I'm just trying to determine if its dried out or useable? If not useable, Ill just put the one on the right in. I have one in my other carb and it runs decent. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
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60ragtop Bonneville Belt Bitch
Joined: March 13, 2006 Posts: 7800 Location: Big Wonderful WYO 82401
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator pump diaphragm question |
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could be original and the ones in the new kits are not as thick but I've never had any problem with them. install the old one and see if you get a good squirt out of the dump tube. _________________ Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986
tasb wrote: |
I've restored a large number too, but I don't toot my horn quite as loud.
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maybe he just snapped cause his car sucked |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69827 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:11 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator pump diaphragm question |
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I know what you mean about the one on the left, it sort of pops in and out really firmly.
I always thought that meant they were worn out and would crack soon.
I've replaced ones that were like that but it was usually because the cover was leaking, I had assumed it was because the material got too hard to seal. _________________ How to Post Photos
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34021 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator pump diaphragm question |
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The rubber hardens with age. If it is so stiff it "oil cans" then it is well past its prime.
One tip I read ages back: Install the accel pump cover somewhat loosely, maybe one full turn loose on each screw. Then open the throttle all the way, and while holding it there, tighten the screws of the pump cover. This ensures the diaphragm is not overstretched at full throttle, making it last longer and giving a more consistent injection. |
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Sharp64 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator pump diaphragm question |
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Works for me. I'll just put in the one form the kit. _________________ 1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
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GratefulPhish Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2020 Posts: 175 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator pump diaphragm question |
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Permatex gasket sealer with a new diaphragm or no? TIA |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator pump diaphragm question |
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GratefulPhish wrote: |
Permatex gasket sealer with a new diaphragm or no? TIA |
I've NEVER used any sealant on such diaphragm in either in a Solex carburetor or a Weber carburetor.
Remember that most RTV sealants are NOT gasoline resistant !!! _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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GratefulPhish Samba Member
Joined: July 20, 2020 Posts: 175 Location: Philadelphia
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Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:25 am Post subject: Re: Accelerator pump diaphragm question |
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That's enough for me, thanks. |
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