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mloret Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:29 pm Post subject: Question for VW Mechanics |
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Hey guys. I posted several weeks ago that the front trunk on my 72 Super Beetle was stuck. I decided to take it to a local mechanic with tons of experience working with VWs. He's had it 6 weeks and it's still not fixed (trunk still stuck). Am I being unreasonable by telling him I'm going to get the car on Friday (tomorrow) no matter what?
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Kjb13 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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You've been much more patient than I would have been. |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51144 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:54 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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Although I don't know anything about his personal situation at the shop (or his life in general) that does sound like a lot of time for a small fix, a phone call with an apology or update would have been in order. Maybe he's too busy with stuff that makes good money and doesn't want to F' around with your car and risk locking himself out or scratching the paint? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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mloret Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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Good point. He's already locked himself out. I don't think he has a lot of business. Poor guy. He's 80 years old, been working on VW's over 50 years. I think his best days are behind him though. I feel like he could be experiencing some hardship/frustration in his life and that's at the root. I have checked on the car once a week or so and he keeps making excuses and telling me to give him a few more days. After about a month, it seems like he should say "I'm sorry, I"m not going to be able to get to this," doesn't it? _________________ Michael Loret |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51144 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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mloret wrote: |
. After about a month, it seems like he should say "I'm sorry, I"m not going to be able to get to this," doesn't it? |
That would be the right thing to do, it could save everyone some time.
Jobs like that don't make much money to start with, and if it goes sideways (which it could easily) he'll put 10 hours into it and have to eat 9 of them himself (if you are one of those customers who insists he honor his quote), I'd be putting it off until there was nothing else left to do myself.
If you know he has the skills to fix it tell him you'll buck up a little more if things end up getting out of hand, that may be just the trigger he needs. Nobody want's to dive into a little job that has the potential to become a career if they aren't going to get paid for it. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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mloret Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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There was no quote. He doesn't really work that way. It's very informal and inexpensive. It's almost like a favor. I think that's the blessing and the curse of the guy. I see what you mean though.
He's got a reputation in central VA for doing this kind of thing. I think VW projects go to his shop to die. I didn't think that I'd receive the treatment, but guess I was wrong. _________________ Michael Loret |
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Just-Bill Samba Member
Joined: March 26, 2020 Posts: 16 Location: Detroit
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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Pick it up and fix it yourself.
I have seen plenty of threads here that deal with that issue. |
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VW_Jimbo Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2016 Posts: 9966 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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Just-Bill wrote: |
Pick it up and fix it yourself.
I have seen plenty of threads here that deal with that issue. |
Agreed! Cut the handle. Take out 2 inches from the center part of the handle and unscrew the bolts by turning the remnant portion of the handle. You will have to touch up the paint, but you would still have a car and a working handle, if you fixed it that same day! _________________ Jimbo
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7304 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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^^^
This, as is often offered up as sound advice around the samba. _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.’”
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
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grandpa red Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 4:43 am Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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I saw the original post and thought the mechanic did not know what he was doing but now you say he is 80 years old.
Maybe he just tinkers in his shop like the jobs are his own projects. _________________ '72 Beetle |
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mloret Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 5:51 am Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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Yeah I think that’s right. I have been taking my VWs to this guy intermittently for 10 years. This has never been a problem. But you are right—it could be that the business side of his garage has ended and now he just tinkers on projects that he enjoys and fixing of guy’s trunk is not one of those. Then it makes sense to pick up my car and take it to someone who will fix it. _________________ Michael Loret |
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lboos Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2015 Posts: 410 Location: Marietta GA.
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:24 am Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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What VW Jimbo said. |
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volksworld Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2011 Posts: 2529 Location: formerly NY currently NC
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 7:53 am Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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it might be at the point that what he does next will screw up the paint and repainting your hood for free is not something he wants to have to deal with...sometimes you can just get frustrated with a job and have to walk away from it for a while to clear your head...and you dont know what his schedule is like...he could have stuff piled up there that hes months or years away from getting to and only tried to squeeze you in cause he thought it would be quick and simple and once it went sideways had to get back to someone else that was screaming louder than you... i'm retired and dont want to do this stuff anymore except when someone begs me and i think its a relatively simple job (which they NEVER turn out to be)....i cant even imagine what my mental attitude would be like in my 80's..maybe he's too proud to admit that hes no longer physically and/or mentally capable of doing what hes been doing for 50 years....if you get it out of there you'll be doing him a favor....and if you want to continue driving an early vw you better figure out how to do it yourself cause the folks that know how are few and far between and their numbers are getting smaller every day
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volksworld Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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and you can slice the handle about 1/4 inch off the hood surface top and bottom with a cut off wheel or sawzall then drill the bolts the rest of the way out without ever touching the paint...and most of the time these hoods need one person to pull the handle in the box and another person up front to push down or wiggle the damn thing to get them to open at all...if he's alone this simple situation would be impossible |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31374 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 8:26 am Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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volksworld wrote: |
most of the time these hoods need one person to pull the handle in the box and another person up front to push down or wiggle the damn thing to get them to open at all...if he's alone this simple situation would be impossible |
When adjusted correctly, and everything working, this is a direct one-person task.
I'm now in favor of adding a supplementary cable to pull open the latch, routing to front right underneath area. Do a search for that if interested. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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lboos Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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I had the same thing happen on my 72 S/B a few years back, took a hack saw cut the handle in the middle, one cut, unscrewed both half's, no damage to the paint, don't understand your problem.
You say he's had it for six week's ? ..it's such a simple task, just do it. |
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andk5591 Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2020 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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If you are not happy, then get the car. No harm, no foul. And be nice about it.
He is probably just as happy to get it out of there. Folks that do this as a "hobby shop" are not in a hurry and they probably have other folks that are trying to get their cars done as well. _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
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Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
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mloret Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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Well, after all that, I went to pick the car up on Friday and thank goodness, the he had the trunk OPEN!. He was puzzling how to fix it and cursing it for being the worst true he's dealt with in 50 years. I told him to take the striker off, forget it, and I'd deal with it. I just wanted it out of his garage and into mine. I'll try to figure it out on my time now.
Thanks for the words of wisdom! Pretty sure we have a trunk alignment problem here. Will see.
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vwoldbug Samba Member
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Posted: Sat May 16, 2020 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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Nice looking car ,is the safety position still working don't let the front hood blow open . |
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Cusser Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 10:09 am Post subject: Re: Question for VW Mechanics |
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The latch is not rocket science. See the photos I've posted earlier in your posts.
The computer expert in the passenger seat looks like he could help you. _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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