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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:51 pm    Post subject: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

Does anyone know if bay window van rims (5 stud) would fit on an '84 Vanagon? I'm driving 3.5 hours to pick them up so I need to be sure. I'm not quite 100% on this.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

Identical rims from about '69 to '91...

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2016 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

When I needed a spare on the road the bay I looked at had steelies with 5" wide rims and the Vanagon steelies are 5.5". Bolt circle and diameter are right but they are narrower.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

from 1971-1991 were 5x112 (small 5) pattern.
1970 and down were wide 5.

dhaavers wrote:
Identical rims from about '69 to '91...

Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

Thanks for the information, guys. Really appreciate it.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

1980-1991 Vanagon, steel:
5.5J x 14
ET39 offset
5x112 bolt pattern
(Ball seat front lug bolts, M14x1.5x19)

1986-1991 Vanagon, alloy:
6J x 14
ET30 offset
5x112 bolt pattern
(Conical seat front lug bolts, M14x1.5x32)

Vanagon Syncro, steel with 205/70 tires
6J x 14
ET30 offset
5x112 bolt pattern

Vanagon Syncro 16, steel
5.5J x 16
ET35 offset
5x112 bolt pattern

Vanagon, South Africa "Rhein" alloy
6.5J x 15
ET30 offset
5x112 bolt pattern

1971-1979 Bay Window:
5.5J x 14
ET39 offset
5x112 bolt pattern

1968-1970 Bay Window:
5J x 14
ET39 offset
5/205 bolt pattern
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

Excellent!! Thank you kamzcab86.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

kamzcab86 wrote:
1980-1991 Vanagon, steel:
5.5J x 14
ET39 offset Shocked
5x112 bolt pattern
(Ball seat front lug bolts, M14x1.5x19)


Wheel fitment rule of thumb is 30ET. Coming from someone that's has not run stock steelies on my van. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:44 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

Bringing this back up. I found no pics of rims for differences.

Bus on Left. Vanagon on Right. Correct? Is there a name for that pattern?


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I did not know I had 4 vanagon rims. The bus rim was in the spare tire hole. The search started and this topic popped up with no pics..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

There should be a production year stamp between the holes.
I think round bore 5.5" wide rim is early 5x112 T2 rim.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

Those are '71 only 14x5.5 rims. Slightly thicker then later wheels. I put a set on my '85 before I sold it.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

l always thought with the round center hole, they were syncro wheels.
l had a bunch of bays in england, they ALL had the centers the same as the wheel on the right of fredybears picture,
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

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l always thought with the round center hole, they were syncro wheels. IF they are 6" wide.
l had a bunch of bays in england, they ALL had the centers the same as the wheel on the right of fredybears picture,

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

I found the stamp date.

4/77 1977 Bus?

Since Vanagons were born in 1980. Correct?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

fredybear wrote:
I found the stamp date.

4/77 1977 Bus?

Since Vanagons were born in 1980. Correct?


Technically you could find Vanagon and Vanagon parts with 1979 production dates if they were an early 1980 Vanagon(My '80 has a '79 production date) but yeah, 1980 was the first MODEL YEAR for the Vanagon.

Either way, if its dated '77 its a bus wheel, not Vanagon.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

I have a very original 86 Syncro tin top 7 passenger. Factory window sticker says 205/70 tires and steel wheels with wheel covers. I am the second owner. When I purchased it had 6 wheels. All are 5.5x14. Does anyone know the source of the 6 inch wide Syncro wheel information?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 2:08 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

Here's one (to start with). He's only got 1 btw.

Note the round hole

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I think syncrohead sold a set of 14x6 a few years ago.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

That’s interesting, I had never heard of these. My 87 syncro had 5.5” from the factory.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dart330 wrote:
That’s interesting, I had never heard of these. My 87 syncro had 5.5” from the factory.


I read somewhere the 6" Syncro steel wheel wasn't equipping the North American Syncros. That's found in Europe.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Vanagon rims VS Bay Window rims Reply with quote

Mini pet peeve, only spoked wheels have rims. There is the rim, the spokes and the hub. All together it is a wheel. Cars have only wheels. There was a small amount of spoked car wheels in existence but that was a long time ago and anyone who bought them have buried their heads or are dead by now.
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