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Stevo Wide 5 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:14 am Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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Hey Chad any extra seat recliners?? _________________ 62 Type 3 Notchback
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ratlookvw Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 1809 Location: midnight train to GA
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:15 am Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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Tram wrote: |
ratlookvw wrote: |
Tram wrote: |
Tram I'm heading to Oregon soon if you need any of those og paint peru green panels....
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notchboy wrote: |
His gas heater is a BN2 Tram - under the hood. |
Very cool- then this car is an easy A/C system install. On the second- design cars the OEM condenser went in front of the front beam but that doesn't work on a first design car as not enough room. This is why you saw the '68/9 cars with the added vent in each front fender inside the bullet signal- they put a small condenser in each front fender and connected them.
In Chadd's case, since he has the BN2 under the bonnet, brackets can be fabricated and a slimline cooling fan attached to the top of a modern parallel flow condenser with the receiver/ dryer built right onto it and it can be suspended from the floor above the trans, like I did on Rick Christensen's notch. this makes for an efficient and clean install.
Rat, get yourself one of these tools:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-A-C-AIR-Condtioning-Hy...Sw4GVYURl6
It's worth its weight in gold.
Then get one of these condensers:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181701086765?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
I *think* this is the correct size but they are available in different sizes.
Cooling fan:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Be-Cool-75082-12-Euro-Blac...mp;vxp=mtr
Zip tie it right on top of the condenser. Wire it to come on with the compressor.
Then you can get all the fittings, ferrules, and seals you need from John Kulak on eBay- very knowledgeable and very fast shipping:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/johnjoysyl/m.html?_ipg=50&_sop=10&_rdc=1
Finally, you'll need bulk A/C hose in size 6, 8, and 10 available on Amazon in 25 foot rolls dirt cheap. Part numbers are Four Seasons 55006, 55008, 55010.
Affix your hoses to the floor along the passenger side edge up in the little channel using the correct size cushioned cable clamps:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wire-Loom-Cushioned-Cable-...SwpDdVHzCS
You'll be able to make all your own hoses that look professional and do a great install like this for cheap. Get a set of R12 to R134a adapters, give it about 5 oz of synthetic refriferant oil, and charge her up with about 3 cans R134a from the parts store. Buy or borrow a set of gauges to do it right. Some charging hoses that you just stick on a can have a gauge; these work well too. |
My buddy has that tool at Napa for crimping the hoses I think. I have seen and smelled him doing this a couple times when I have walked in the door. I wonder if you would be interested in flying in for the install if I paid for your flight and time. this is obviously not your first rodeo with typ3 ac units and you are a huge help! what do you think? |
I think it's money you don't need to spend, LOL. It's not rocket science and I can walk you through any bumps in the road.
I've actually done way more of these on classic 1960s Mercedes with Kuhlmeister or Frigiking setups than VWs, so I keep most everything to do it in stock. I use the same Chinese Sandens that Gilmore uses. At first I was totally resistant to this but John Kulak kept insisting they were just as good and I should try them, and that has proven to be very true over quite a few installs. They're efficient, quiet, and don't sap any noticeable power.
In fact, one of my big MB collector customers that I've built and installed several of these for lives in AZ during the winter and has a 1964 220SEb down there. He had me build a setup and send it down. His old classic Mustang mechanics that offered to work on the MB are wanting all my sources for this stuff now because they said it was a real easy install and they really like the compressor/ adapter plate and the condenser. I sent all the brackets, pulleys, belt, premade hoses, refurbed and refinished under dash unit, compressor, adapter, aux fan and bracket, wiring harness, and under dash "modesty" panels made to go round the A/C unit and blower.
I might be able to do something similar for you if push comes to shove as I will be making up a system for my '69 as well down the road apiece.
Everett, maybe it's time for an A/C install sticky. |
Tram. Thanks again for the help. I will hang tight and give you the business. Thanks buddy! |
I wasn't really soliciting business per se, but I'll be a resource if you need it. I am freaking buried, LOL.[/quote] _________________ If the RV Hut is a rockin, don't come a knockn'
57 Panel, 66 highroof panel, 65 Notch, 59 Vert, 61 Vert, 1969 Fridolin, 'Reggie ' 66 RV, 65 Pipe Truck, 65 RHD T-34, 70 dbl slider panel, 1969 Deep sea green sunroof automatic square, the greypoop-on, and a shit load of wheels! |
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ratlookvw Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 1809 Location: midnight train to GA
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:17 am Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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I do have a pair of nos brackets but I need to make sure they are t3. I bought them on a lottery ticket idea at a show
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Hey Chad any extra seat recliners?? |
_________________ If the RV Hut is a rockin, don't come a knockn'
57 Panel, 66 highroof panel, 65 Notch, 59 Vert, 61 Vert, 1969 Fridolin, 'Reggie ' 66 RV, 65 Pipe Truck, 65 RHD T-34, 70 dbl slider panel, 1969 Deep sea green sunroof automatic square, the greypoop-on, and a shit load of wheels! |
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ratlookvw Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 1809 Location: midnight train to GA
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2017 8:23 am Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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_________________ If the RV Hut is a rockin, don't come a knockn'
57 Panel, 66 highroof panel, 65 Notch, 59 Vert, 61 Vert, 1969 Fridolin, 'Reggie ' 66 RV, 65 Pipe Truck, 65 RHD T-34, 70 dbl slider panel, 1969 Deep sea green sunroof automatic square, the greypoop-on, and a shit load of wheels! |
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69 Notchback Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2011 Posts: 714 Location: Bailey Co
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2017 7:29 am Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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Subscribed. This is going to be one cool build! |
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ratlookvw Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 1809 Location: midnight train to GA
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 9:10 am Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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So my buddy found me this car on Craigslist in inland empire CA. I contacted the seller in January to look at it in person, so I loaded my small trailer and bombed out to buses by the bridge, contacted the seller again from there and they said the car sold. I could not believe it. It was my fault for not buying it from Atlanta when I saw the ad, but I wanted to put my eyes on the car first to insure it had one or some of the better original paint fenders or doors I could use for my build. I drove back to Atlanta empty and not happy. Two weeks after I was home, my buddy here texted me and said the fasty was relisted in CA. You have to be kidding me I thought. I contacted the seller once again and he told me the first buyer flaked out. I went down to his bank in the morning and deposited the money for the car. I am now on my way back with the car after a long haul moving other cars around the country just to get what turns out the front fenders and doors. Lol. Good enough for me! This color is so hard to find let alone original paint parts I feel it has been worth all the efforts and sore back! _________________ If the RV Hut is a rockin, don't come a knockn'
57 Panel, 66 highroof panel, 65 Notch, 59 Vert, 61 Vert, 1969 Fridolin, 'Reggie ' 66 RV, 65 Pipe Truck, 65 RHD T-34, 70 dbl slider panel, 1969 Deep sea green sunroof automatic square, the greypoop-on, and a shit load of wheels! |
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Donnie strickland Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2009 Posts: 2403 Location: Moody, AL
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:15 am Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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Be careful! Post pics! _________________ 71 Elm Green FI A/T Squareback |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22457 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2017 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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So now you have a little matching set? His Hers Square Fasty thing going on?
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OK, this thread is over. You win. |
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ratlookvw Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 1809 Location: midnight train to GA
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Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 6:42 am Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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notchboy wrote: |
So now you have a little matching set? His Hers Square Fasty thing going on?
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Nice. No, this one is going up for sale once I get the original paint parts I need. But it would be a cool car to keep.... _________________ If the RV Hut is a rockin, don't come a knockn'
57 Panel, 66 highroof panel, 65 Notch, 59 Vert, 61 Vert, 1969 Fridolin, 'Reggie ' 66 RV, 65 Pipe Truck, 65 RHD T-34, 70 dbl slider panel, 1969 Deep sea green sunroof automatic square, the greypoop-on, and a shit load of wheels! |
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22711 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 3:40 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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ratlookvw wrote: |
notchboy wrote: |
So now you have a little matching set? His Hers Square Fasty thing going on?
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Nice. No, this one is going up for sale once I get the original paint parts I need. But it would be a cool car to keep.... |
Even though all Fastbacks are only good for parts for Squarebacks and Notchbacks... that one is too nice to break for spares.
Sorry. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69813 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:15 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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Tram wrote: |
ratlookvw wrote: |
notchboy wrote: |
So now you have a little matching set? His Hers Square Fasty thing going on?
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Nice. No, this one is going up for sale once I get the original paint parts I need. But it would be a cool car to keep.... |
Even though all Fastbacks are only good for parts for Squarebacks and Notchbacks... that one is too nice to break for spares.
Sorry. |
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notchboy Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 22457 Location: Escondido CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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Man I can smell the OG on that fastback from here. _________________
t3kg wrote: |
OK, this thread is over. You win. |
Jason "notchboy" Weigel
1964 1500 S
1964 T34 S Convertible
1977 Westfalia Camper pop-top |
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22711 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:20 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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EverettB wrote: |
Tram wrote: |
ratlookvw wrote: |
notchboy wrote: |
So now you have a little matching set? His Hers Square Fasty thing going on?
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Nice. No, this one is going up for sale once I get the original paint parts I need. But it would be a cool car to keep.... |
Even though all Fastbacks are only good for parts for Squarebacks and Notchbacks... that one is too nice to break for spares.
Sorry. |
Not true, they are good for people thinking you own a Porsch-uh too |
311... 911... mmmmmkayyyyy... _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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Tram Samba Socialist
Joined: May 02, 2003 Posts: 22711 Location: Still Feelin' the Bern- Once you've felt it you can't un- feel it.
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:21 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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notchboy wrote: |
Man I can smell the OG on that fastback from here. |
That's yer armpits... JEEBUS take a bath. _________________ Немає виправдання для війни! Я з Україною.
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ratlookvw Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 1809 Location: midnight train to GA
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:46 am Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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Just bought another fastback that had a deep sea green rear fender and hood! It also has a black interior for this 69 and a clean original dash for my square. Going to save it as well if the bottoms are good or I will sell it outright once here in Atlanta. _________________ If the RV Hut is a rockin, don't come a knockn'
57 Panel, 66 highroof panel, 65 Notch, 59 Vert, 61 Vert, 1969 Fridolin, 'Reggie ' 66 RV, 65 Pipe Truck, 65 RHD T-34, 70 dbl slider panel, 1969 Deep sea green sunroof automatic square, the greypoop-on, and a shit load of wheels! |
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ratlookvw Samba Member
Joined: June 21, 2004 Posts: 1809 Location: midnight train to GA
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:33 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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ratlookvw wrote: |
Just bought another fastback that had a deep sea green rear fender and hood! It also has a black interior for this 69 and a clean original dash for my square. Going to save it as well if the bottoms are good or I will sell it outright once here in Atlanta. |
_________________ If the RV Hut is a rockin, don't come a knockn'
57 Panel, 66 highroof panel, 65 Notch, 59 Vert, 61 Vert, 1969 Fridolin, 'Reggie ' 66 RV, 65 Pipe Truck, 65 RHD T-34, 70 dbl slider panel, 1969 Deep sea green sunroof automatic square, the greypoop-on, and a shit load of wheels! |
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ratlookvw Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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Had my wheels bead blasted and tumble polished. On my trip to LA had the outer lips polished Now wash the wheels and paint brilliant gold centers. _________________ If the RV Hut is a rockin, don't come a knockn'
57 Panel, 66 highroof panel, 65 Notch, 59 Vert, 61 Vert, 1969 Fridolin, 'Reggie ' 66 RV, 65 Pipe Truck, 65 RHD T-34, 70 dbl slider panel, 1969 Deep sea green sunroof automatic square, the greypoop-on, and a shit load of wheels! |
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69 Notchback Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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Nice wheel's, are you going to run the on the square? |
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ratlookvw Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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69 Notchback wrote: |
Nice wheel's, are you going to run the on the square? |
Yes that's the plan in brilliant gold I also have a set of genuine early 901 fuchs to flip flop on it. Gotta have more than one pair of shoes. _________________ If the RV Hut is a rockin, don't come a knockn'
57 Panel, 66 highroof panel, 65 Notch, 59 Vert, 61 Vert, 1969 Fridolin, 'Reggie ' 66 RV, 65 Pipe Truck, 65 RHD T-34, 70 dbl slider panel, 1969 Deep sea green sunroof automatic square, the greypoop-on, and a shit load of wheels! |
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69 Notchback Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: My deep sea green 1969 f/I automatic sunroof a/c gas heat |
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I happen to feel the same about shoos. Can never have to many pair. Looking FWD to your progress. |
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