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andre b Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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I kinda disagree ..the pgsg front seat I think was part of the special order to match the green seats in the rear..Grey wouldn't have match nothing
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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Clara wrote: |
andre b wrote: |
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and took the front seat to my upholstery guy to see if we can come up with something.
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I suspect that seat is not original to the bus. I'd expect it would have come with kombi unpleated upholstery. |
I think he mentioned it was from a PG/SG bus... _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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andre b Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2004 Posts: 806 Location: San Jose C.A.
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Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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I'm having the seat redone in a pgsg material.with the green and black material that was in it.Who's to say it's not original! |
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Lind Samba Member
Joined: November 06, 2000 Posts: 9915 Location: idaho
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 1:48 pm Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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andre b wrote: |
I'm having the seat redone in a pgsg material.with the green and black material that was in it.Who's to say it's not original! |
I know how to find out, just track down the original owner and ask him. Also, ask him why the inside was painted Red.
I am sure he is just some dude in his mid 90s living on a farm in upstate New York or something. _________________ .
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andre b Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2004 Posts: 806 Location: San Jose C.A.
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 5:27 pm Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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Im on the case Lind,, |
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cru62 Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 4117 Location: Margaritaville.....24/7
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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crofty wrote: |
Is it a Stewart Warner heater in that bus? |
Eberspacher. _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
Jokes about German sausage are the wurst.
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crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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cru62 wrote: |
crofty wrote: |
Is it a Stewart Warner heater in that bus? |
Eberspacher. |
I wonder who installed it with the switch right there. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
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I slept on crofty's tent once. I passed out drunk from two bottles of Everett's brother's wine. |
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cru62 Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 4117 Location: Margaritaville.....24/7
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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crofty wrote: |
cru62 wrote: |
crofty wrote: |
Is it a Stewart Warner heater in that bus? |
Eberspacher. |
I wonder who installed it with the switch right there. |
My guess would be Westfalia. It would be pretty handy if you were in the bed. Of course, not so much if you were driving. _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
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andre b Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2004 Posts: 806 Location: San Jose C.A.
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cru62 Samba Member
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andre b Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2004 Posts: 806 Location: San Jose C.A.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:46 am Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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il look into that! |
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:06 am Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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Good luck finding one. They do come up occasionally but are not cheap. I sold a really nice original one to Jack (jjjack) a couple years ago for his 59 Westy. Hated selling it but I already had the right rack for my poptop Westy and his needed one so it made sense. Should be dual screw and single tag.
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andre b Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2004 Posts: 806 Location: San Jose C.A.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:27 am Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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srfndoc wrote: |
Good luck finding one. They do come up occasionally but are not cheap. I sold a really nice original one to Jack (jjjack) a couple years ago for his 59 Westy. Hated selling it but I already had the right rack for my poptop Westy and his needed one so it made sense. Should be dual screw and single tag.
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Damn..that would of been a perfect match.They are pricey and i guess you have to step up and pay up,The rack is everything to these old westys,im still learning all the differences,thanks for the info! |
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srfndoc Samba Member
Joined: August 21, 2010 Posts: 3274 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:47 am Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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Since this was an early production 59 (11/3/58 production date) I wonder if it could have come with the 58 and earlier rack. Greg can probably chime in but that would be even harder to find. I guess it would depend on how quickly VW sent it over to Weidenbruck and what they had left in stock. _________________ RPM=(MPH*336* (R&P*4th*1.26))/Tire Diameter in inches |
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andre b Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2004 Posts: 806 Location: San Jose C.A.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:55 am Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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srfndoc wrote: |
Since this was an early production 59 (11/3/58 production date) I wonder if it could have come with the 58 and earlier rack. Greg can probably chime in but that would be even harder to find. I guess it would depend on how quickly VW sent it over to Weidenbruck and what they had left in stock. |
oh..good point! |
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andre b Samba Member
Joined: August 10, 2004 Posts: 806 Location: San Jose C.A.
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:27 am Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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I'm crossing my fingers that Cru62 can go back to the original owner and get a lot of unanswered questions cleared up.and possibly more bits for the bus!
Lind also forwarded me some real interesting leads about the original author that wrote up the story on the FCG Westy!
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DanM Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2002 Posts: 1330 Location: Falls Church, VA
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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Killer bus. I hope you can confirm it is "the one". I used to stare at the pics in that issue of FCG quite a bit! |
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cru62 Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 4117 Location: Margaritaville.....24/7
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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So, thanks to the diligent investigation by Lind, and at the urging of Andre, I decided to try to contact the author of the article in "Foreign Car Guide", F. J. Grandy. Luckily he was not hard to track down. Since the early 80's he has been running his family business in upstate New York, Lazy River Playground. Thankfully, there was a good reason that he was so easy to track down. The guy is World Famous! Prior to his present gig in NY he was the Chief Photographer for "Stars and Stripes" in Europe for 35 years. He got that job after graduating from USC Film School. I looked through his vast online portfolio which is very impressive.
I was looking for shots of the FCG bus with no luck. I was going to drop him a line. But, I noticed that there was a phone number listed for the Resort. I figured I had nothing to lose and rang him up. I got an answering machine and left a message telling him who I was and why I was calling. I'm not sure I would return a call from myself given the rambling, unrehearsed message I let. But, it must have piqued Mr. Grandy's interest as he immediately returned my call.
What ensued was one of the highlights of my adult life. Mr. Grandy could not have been more pleasant, accommodating, interesting and flattered in my interest in him and his ownership of the Bus in question.
He is the man who ordered the cover bus from VW. I told him that I believe Andre's bus is his old bus. And everything he told me confirms that they are one in the same. He ordered the bus in 1959, with all the options on his bus that are shared with Andre's bus, i.e. Safaris, 6 popouts, S0-23 with propane cooker, extra battery, electric fridge, Ambulance fans and that delicious Black and (according to Mr. Grandy) Yellow paint job. Now, Andre is convinced that the Bus is really Black and White. And I did press this point with Mr. G a bit. But he was adamant that it was yellow. Not Screaming Yellow. More of a Buttercream. He said he ordered that color scheme to be different. After taking delivery of the Bus he and a friend drove it to Gstad for some skiing. When he arrived he kept occasionally spotting other VW Buses with strikingly similar paint jobs. Apparently, the Swiss PO liked that combination long before he did!
I picked his brain about a few other details and then asked how long he had the Bus. He said he sold it in 1961 to a young couple. The husband was in the Army stationed in Germany. I asked if it was the couple I bought the bus from. He couldn't remember their names. But he said he has his diaries from his entire life and promised to look it up and get back to me.
I mentioned the photos from the FCG. He said he had the shot from the cover in a larger size somewhere in his archives. He told me that the two young ladies in the spread were Stewardesses that he knew from travel all over the world for Stars and Stripes.
We talked cameras and travelling and cars for a while as well. Our chat ended with my promise to send him pics of the bus in its present condition and his invitation to take me on a river trip in his Amphicar on the RIver which runs through his "Playground". I am so glad I called. I look forward to talking to him again and hopefully clearing up some niggling details for Andre. _________________ "My biggest worry is that when I die, my wife will sell all my parts for what I told her I paid for them"-Jon
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easy e Samba Member
Joined: May 28, 2008 Posts: 3931 Location: 1 hr north of Santa Barbara
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Viking Funeral Samba Member
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 60 Location: Under the bus at the moment
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:43 am Post subject: Re: 1958/59 Foreign Car Guide Westy! |
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That's a great story.
Red Grandy is interviewed in this short PBS feature from 2009 about his family's Lazy River Playground, which is notable because it has been deliberately preserved just the way it was back in the 1940s & '50s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ3qV3r12lk
Looks like it would be a very pleasant day-trip destination for upstate New York or Vermont or Canadian early buses, or really for any vehicle or person from that era. |
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