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GlendaDea Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2017 Posts: 1 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 6:11 pm Post subject: Shimmying |
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Hi we are look at purchasing a 73 type 181 it has a strong shimmy at 50 miles per hour any ideas of what would cause this |
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Joe 20 Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2005 Posts: 655 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: Shimmying |
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Well, that's a hard question to answer...I think I'd see if I could get a professional opinion. It could be something as simple as the tires not being balanced properly or it could be a bad suspension part. The first suggestion is annoying, the second could kill ya...See what the owner says regarding the tire balance and if possible have a reputable shop check it out...doesn't have to be a VW shop...any will do. Good Luck! |
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77kafer Samba Member
Joined: April 08, 2008 Posts: 823 Location: New Windsor, NY
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:17 am Post subject: Re: Shimmying |
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If you are accelerating and it starts to shimmy at around 45 to 50, and then you apply the brakes and the shimmy goes away it is more than likely the STEERING DAMPNER. _________________ Supposed to be 77käfer, but there are no umlauts on an american keyboard
Overheard on 27 June 07, one lady to another when they saw my Harli in a parking lot at West Point, "maybe he found it on the clearance aisle at the Volkswagen dealer" |
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YDBD Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2017 Posts: 891 Location: Bavaria, Germany
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Shimmying |
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Steering Dampener and Wheel Balance
Alignment
Wheel bearing slop
In that order, but I would do the first three right after you buy it.
if you can jack up the front end with the front wheels off the ground see if you can move them by grabbing the top and bottom and pull in and out to see if there is any play. Check the ball joints and see if they are tight (they usually don't move...ever..even when trying to get them to move) _________________ '56 pan Dune Buggy since '69
don't live in the past...but when I did:
'67 bug
'64 baja
'60 dune buggy
'73 Personenkraftwagen Type 182 "Thing" |
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911pickup Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2004 Posts: 625 Location: Near Goats on the Roof
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 2:33 pm Post subject: Re: Shimmying |
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Get the wheels balanced first. My Thing also has a wheel shimmy, but it happens at various speeds. I'm not surprised since none of my wheels have any wheel weights.
The main problem getting the Thing's wheels balanced is you either need to take it to a shop that has an adapter for the wide five wheel, or buy one from a VW vender, like this guy:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw//classifieds/detail.php?id=1830990
I bought one of these because I doubted there was a tire shop in my small town that had an adapter. |
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ldj1002 Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2015 Posts: 260
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:18 am Post subject: Re: Shimmying |
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911pickup wrote: |
Get the wheels balanced first. My Thing also has a wheel shimmy, but it happens at various speeds. I'm not surprised since none of my wheels have any wheel weights.
The main problem getting the Thing's wheels balanced is you either need to take it to a shop that has an adapter for the wide five wheel, or buy one from a VW vender, like this guy:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw//classifieds/detail.php?id=1830990
I bought one of these because I doubted there was a tire shop in my small town that had an adapter. |
I put BB's in my tires, balance problem solved |
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doublecanister Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2008 Posts: 1184 Location: Richmond, Va
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 10:17 am Post subject: Re: Shimmying |
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I've had 2 bent rims (old chrome wide 5 rims) do this around 45-to-50 mph.
But the steering damper is a known culprit too.
and for idj1002,
BB's?
Funny, somewhere I've heard of that.
Just curious, How many did you put in? a hole bag of em?
T _________________ ****************************************
2020 - Mustang Eco Boost [High Performance]
1973 - Thing
1966 - Mustang GT- Fastback
1951 - Ford F1 pickup Flathead V8 |
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ldj1002 Samba Member
Joined: August 24, 2015 Posts: 260
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Shimmying |
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doublecanister wrote: |
I've had 2 bent rims (old chrome wide 5 rims) do this around 45-to-50 mph.
But the steering damper is a known culprit too.
and for idj1002,
BB's?
Funny, somewhere I've heard of that.
Just curious, How many did you put in? a hole bag of em?
T |
I put 3oz. in each tire. I used the common BB's for a BB gun, .177 caliber. |
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doublecanister Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2008 Posts: 1184 Location: Richmond, Va
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Shimmying |
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ldj1002 wrote: |
doublecanister wrote: |
I've had 2 bent rims (old chrome wide 5 rims) do this around 45-to-50 mph.
But the steering damper is a known culprit too.
and for idj1002,
BB's?
Funny, somewhere I've heard of that.
Just curious, How many did you put in? a hole bag of em?
T |
I put 3oz. in each tire. I used the common BB's for a BB gun, .177 caliber. |
Thanks for the info idj1002
T _________________ ****************************************
2020 - Mustang Eco Boost [High Performance]
1973 - Thing
1966 - Mustang GT- Fastback
1951 - Ford F1 pickup Flathead V8 |
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74 Thing Samba Member
Joined: September 02, 2004 Posts: 7390
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Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Shimmying |
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Usually it is wheel balancing or need new tires or ball joints for mine. Tires have a 4 digit manufactured date on the sidewall and should be relaced every so often anyways-go to a site like tirerack for more info.
There are things like dynabeads for balancing as mentioned above as well
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/ |
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