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aeromech
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Guys, I'm trying to restore my bus with the original tool pouch w/tools, jack, etc. Anyone have a pic of all this? I've seen the one in the owners manual but it doesn't show the seat stand wall with the rubber bungee, etc. Anyone know if the bungee is available as a reproduction? Mine is going to break soon.
Also, anyone know what these are? They came with my bus in a parts bag.
Lastly, does anyone know what bolts on here?
drivers side
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:40 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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There's a tool kit thread here somewhere, maybe search jack bag or something to differentiate it from the road trip ones.
The rubber things are bumpers for the spare tire where it sits against the side wall.
The bolt holes in the bulkhead are for M501.
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aeromech
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:44 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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M501?
Edit: Oh, some kind of third front seat bracket. Thanks Mark.
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aeromech
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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The rubber things are bumpers for the spare tire where it sits against the side wall.
I pulled out my spare and see a place to mount one of the rubber bumpers but don't see another place for the other. Anyone have a pic of that? My sidewall panel doesn't appear to be original.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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Gary, shoot me a PM of exact tools (ID #s) you need for your collection. I might have a good connection 
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aeromech
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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It's a 1971, sorry.
I just got a kit from Ken Madson and it has everything listed in that .pdf except I still need the hub cap puller and a 905 belt. Ken sent me a bungee but it's pretty cracked. I was hoping to find one made reproduction. Guess I can live with it.
Last thing I need is a pic of the spare tire rubber bumpers in place. Maybe ETKA can help.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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I'm looking for a pic like this one which is a 1968. My 1971 has different bumpers.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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Done, I was able to figure it out. Thanks guys.
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| Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2017 6:52 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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I don't think the strap is needed for the toolkit http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621361
Sorry about not completing the M501 info, posting while distracted, my bad. It's a kit to convert a walkthrough into a bench seat.
What pulley are you running?, I know the owners manual says 9.5 X 905 belt, but doesn't the cast pulley use a 9.5 X 900?
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Right now I have a stock pulley but I hope to change that soon to a degree pulley. Lots available but I haven't decided which to buy yet. Leaning towards a 6 pounder
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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I think those spare tyre bump stops you have are correct for a later bus, from memory 1971 is a different set-up.
I think the toolkit reference thread busdaddy mentions is this one here, Tcash put it together not too long back:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=664412&highlight=
Also, if you are looking for absolute purist originality, for reference I took a picture of this 9.5x905 belt on a Type 4 engine at the VW Automuseum in Wolfsburg, it is OEM VW-Audi stamped, made by Optibelt of Germany:
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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x2 on the early bays using different bumpers. Mine are rectangles with no tabs like the ones that came in the parts bag.
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| What pulley are you running?, I know the owners manual says 9.5 X 905 belt, but doesn't the cast pulley use a 9.5 X 900? |
I've seen the 900 mentioned in a few sources, but some past memory is nagging at me saying "not Bentley."
It looks like Gary has the 38-amp with a cast pulley, so the 905 will run but the 900 will result in a "smaller" effective pulley and better summer cooling. I've only ever seen one German 900 belt in my life, and I put it on Brian's bug, at Gary's house. 
905 across the country,
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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| What pulley are you running?, I know the owners manual says 9.5 X 905 belt, but doesn't the cast pulley use a 9.5 X 900? |
I've seen the 900 mentioned in a few sources, but some past memory is nagging at me saying "not Bentley."
It looks like Gary has the 38-amp with a cast pulley, so the 905 will run but the 900 will result in a "smaller" effective pulley and better summer cooling. I've only ever seen one German 900 belt in my life, and I put it on Brian's bug, at Gary's house.
905 across the country,
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I scored a couple NOS 9.5 X 900's last year, I had to add a few more shims but once it was on it sat right down at the root of the pulley, gave the cooling fan a cool turbo sound. The rubber tip on my contact tach disintegrated so I couldn't get a before and after generator RPM reading to compare, but the difference was significant just by the sound.
Sadly even NOS rubber doesn't age well, that belt looked just like the one you ran across the plains in 6 months of use.
Since then I've sourced a 10 X 900 from my FLAPS (Continental 15361), it required even a few more shims but it fits and spins that fan up really nice.
I see the 1970 owners manual shows 9.1 X 900 or 9.5 X 900, the 9.1 would have fit without adding any extra shims. I found a cross reference for the 9.5 to some Mercedes, IIRC it was a Unimog steering belt, but all the parts suppliers substituted the 10mm version so it seems nobody makes the skinny belt today. So far I'm happy with the 10 X 900 and some bonus shims, at least it's fresh rubber, I might experiment with gluing sandpaper into a pulley to skinny it down one day, so far it's not that big a deal as is.
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| Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Original equipment tools |
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I'm assuming Aeromech's 1971 is running a 1.6L Type 1 engine? Or is it a 1.7L Type 4 (as in from Aug 1971 onwards for the 1972 model year)? If the former, VW Heritage stock the Optibelt brand, although I doubt they look exactly like the 1970s originals:
https://www.vwheritage.com/search/?act=search.sear...btnSearch=
EDIT: All the talk of shims above answers my question for me 
I just now took a closer look at that Type 4 engine I posted a picture of above
(am able to zoom in on the high resolution original on my hard drive). VW ambiguously said on their data sign that it was a 2.0L but it was in fact a 1.8 dual Solex set-up.
I typed the belt size wrong without checking properly. The belt pictured above is an Optibelt 9.5 x 965, VW Part Number: "021 903 137 A"
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I'm assuming Aeromech's 1971 is running a 1.6L Type 1 engine? Or is it a 1.7L Type 4 (as in from Aug 1971 onwards for the 1972 model year)? If the former, VW Heritage stock the Optibelt brand, although I doubt they look exactly like the 1970s originals:
https://www.vwheritage.com/search/?act=search.sear...btnSearch=
EDIT: All the talk of shims above answers my question for me
I just now took a closer look at that Type 4 engine I posted a picture of above
(am able to zoom in on the high resolution original on my hard drive). VW ambiguously said on their data sign that it was a 2.0L but it was in fact a 1.8 dual Solex set-up.
I typed the belt size wrong without checking properly. The belt pictured above is an Optibelt 9.5 x 965, VW Part Number: "021 903 137 A"
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