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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12467
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:37 pm Post subject: The empi |
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Before Christmas a friend of mine asked to assemble an engine for him. So I began looking it over today, I'm a procrastinator. We've got a case that's cut second oversize .040 and thrust between +1and +2 and a standard crank polished. He let everything sit so it needs cleaning including removing the #3 main needs to come back off the crank for a thorough cleaning. I'll be checking all the measurements just to make sure everything's in order. I also cleaned the case up at the car wash. Look real close you can see corrosion in the bottom of the case, not good but I've seen worse.
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sawed off Samba Member
Joined: September 15, 2016 Posts: 428 Location: Idaho
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:29 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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I used wheel cleaner with a small amount of acid on my case. I think it was etching wheel cleaner, It will remove that corrosion |
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:35 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Hey! That's my bench space! _________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
Solex 30 PICT 3 carburetor
Bosch 113905205AE autostick distributor |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:48 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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sb001 wrote: |
Hey! That's my bench space! |
I took seven more generators over to the rebuilders last Thursday, waiting to hear back from him. When I do your engine will be finished, it's that close. |
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sb001 Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2011 Posts: 10406 Location: NW Arkansas
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Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 8:14 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
sb001 wrote: |
Hey! That's my bench space! |
I took seven more generators over to the rebuilders last Thursday, waiting to hear back from him. When I do your engine will be finished, it's that close. |
Sweet! I think I'll just call it good and drive it--brakes aren't that important right?
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_________________ I'm the humblest guy on this board.
1969 autostick sedan, family owned since new
1600 SP engine
Solex 30 PICT 3 carburetor
Bosch 113905205AE autostick distributor |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:25 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Snapped a few pics of building the crank
First up the number three main, dowel faces flywheel
Heat the cam drive gear about 3 minutes not smokin hot
Dots face up
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:30 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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The spacer fits next ck for tightness
Install brass distributor drive gear, it hates faster than the steel cam gear watch it
These are the type of pliers to use, I've got a choice
Dist drive gear installed ready for clip
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:33 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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There's the clip installed
Small bearing next dowels face flywheel
Oil slinger ring
The woodruff key makes the assembley complete |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:36 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Again I'm not using a fancy engine stand to build this, I can use a bench vice
The thrust bearing installed again dowel faces flywheel |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:41 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Laying crank in the case lining up the bearings on the dowel pins.
Using the split number two main as a tool to verify crank is fully seated on dowels. This prevents ruined or crushed bearings, it works take note.
Cam gear indexed to crank look at the dots
The cam lube, looks like moly to me |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:43 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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This cam bearing needs attention as sometimes it extends into the oil trough, you could trim it to fit, this was ok.
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:48 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Failed to mention brass gear goes on either way and its not a hater, but it does get heated |
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Frodge Samba Member
Joined: October 04, 2006 Posts: 1991 Location: Dump
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Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 5:55 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Nice write up. Thanks for sharing. |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:38 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Spent some today getting this short block built.
Install the relief valves, here's the tool notice the scars further up on the knurled area, it's because of corrosion caused by water in the oil, more on that later.
First shine a bright light and check the bore, you can clean up slight pitting or siezure marks, you'll want to verify it slides freely in the bore.
There's the plunger and there it is installed on the tool
I used a Q tip to make the valve slide nicely, then spring, the big screw with crush washer and a tiny dab of permatex to insure leak free seal.
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:50 am Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Here's evidence of more water damage, probably a lot of short trips never getting the engine up to full temp, maybe no thermostat that compounds it as well. But the damage is there, all we can do is try to make a leak free seal.
Looks bad but the actual sealing surface is still intact. I'm going to cheat just a little and use this product which I know works and it cleans up easy next oil change. I've heard it called " pretty girl" look at the pic.
Finally he wants this billet aluminum cover, looks nice and adds horsepower too
Here it is and my friend is checking over the work
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9767 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: The empi |
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What's the expected HP gain on that drain cover? If it's significant I may have to get one for myself.
I have heard that your buddies breed can bite a broom handle in two. Is that true?
Thanks for posting the build pics. I haven't built an engine in years. So this helps to keep my mind fresh. and is a good reference when the time comes again.
Have a great day. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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SBD Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2012 Posts: 3269 Location: SOUTH DAKOTA
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Isn't that louvered plate installed with the louvers facing the wrong way? _________________ "Just $99 down and $64 a month for 36 months buys you a brand new Volkswagen Beetle!"
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I wouldent waste $ or thyme on building a small motor. build it big so it dosent have to work hard.remember it's only as fast as your foot alows it to be unless you build a small turd then it just stinks as it squishes up through your toes when you step on it. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26787 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Yep |
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51148 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: The empi |
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Zundfolge1432 wrote: |
Here it is and my friend is checking over the work
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Brilliant!, now you have someone to blame when a nut or some other shiny part goes missing or gets left out.
(fellow part time B&G servant) _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12856 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:09 pm Post subject: Re: The empi |
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I didn't see any mention of the round metal plug at the back of the cam in the block, just wanted to make sure it wasn't forgotten.
FWIW, the heating element on a coffee maker is sufficient enough for heating the gears.
Looks good though. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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