Need tips on swapping a 091 and 2.0 into a 74 Bay

[gleason]

I have a wiz of a VW buddy that said he can go through it! Guess that's the next step to get it on his bench! Thanks for all your help with this.

[hazetguy]

something that has not been mentioned is whether or not you have an "early" or "late" '74. i had a "late" 74, and putting an 091 and a 2L in it did not involve any modifications to any parts (like the shift rod, mounts, etc), and it all just bolted right in.
i kinda remember reading somewhere on the forum that "late" 74 began a bunch of changes that allowed later parts such as this to be installed with no mods. if i can reference this info or threads, i'll post links.

reference pics
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=411720
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=346684 (yeah, that progressive went away)
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=376019
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[Bonesbrigade]

Just curious since this thread is filled with knowledgeable engine guru's. Im in the same situation and have the opertunity to purchase a GB motor 2.0 type 4. The guy wants $250. It it just the motor no trans. Is this a good deal? What do these usually go for?
Thanks

[vwwestyman]

I'd say that is a hell of a deal if it seems to be a decent motor. Especially if you can turn it over by hand and feel even compression on all 4 strokes.
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[Wildthings]

Try and work out a deal where you don't have to pay him for it (maybe set up an escrow account at your bank) until you have it installed and have gotten it nice and hot a couple of times, including a 20-30 mile highway run at 70mph. You should be able to keep the oil pressure warning light off with a crankcase full of hot 5w30 oil.

Be sure to pull the rocker arms and check to see if all the valve stems are at the same height, if not then you will need to do immediate head work.

[gleason]

hazetguy, just wondering what your vin was, that might help determine if I have and early or late 74? Would really be nice if it was a bolt in!!
1974
Aug 1 215 2 000 001 AS 195 426 - 1600/50bhp
AP 027 466 - 1800/68bhp
ED 000 640 - 1800/70bhp DIN EFI - Automatic Start of 1975 model year
Dec 31 215 2 073 083 AS 251 574
AP 037 047
ED 0 011 950 Fuel injection started

[gleason]

hazetguy, mine was built January 10, 1974 and had FI. I'm assuming it is a late. Did you need to used the top two hangers and if so, how did you get bolts in when you put the tranny/engine in together??? TY

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[gleason]

As far as the hijackers question goes, I'm sure that if he shops around he will find that a good set of t4 tin is worth the money. A good set or even core heads? Buy it before it's gone is my feeling.
And back to the topic, being that mine is late I might get buy without adjusting that shaft length as hazetguy did. has me wondering about the upper hangers when you swap the two as a unit?

[Wildthings]

[NoBudgetVWGarage]

In the process of swapping my 091 with a 3 Rib Belhousing to a Complete 091 with 091 bellhousing.
228 Flywheel, clutch, and disk. Also installed the loner studs on the bottom. Also got a new starter.
My problem is the starter bolt does not go all the way through.. is that longer as well?
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[SGKent]

I do not know from experience on that one however the fiche shows

up to VIN 215 2 300 000 M10 x 110 (44, 46, 47, 50)
Vin 216 2 000 001 on M10 x 123 (46, 50, 70)
Vin 217 2 060 001 on M10 x 123 (68 Australian)
Vin 216 2 000 001 M10 x 170 (automatic)

"70" is the 2.0L G series engine
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[NoBudgetVWGarage]

Thanks SG. Seems the 123mm one would have worked perfect. I also had to find a longer bolt for the other top side as well.
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