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glandnut 40 horses of Fury
Joined: February 26, 2003 Posts: 1432 Location: J-ville, FL
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lonotch Samba Padrino
Joined: August 28, 2004 Posts: 3304 Location: So. Cal. Oceanside GFK!
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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I have a set of (what i've been told numorus times)early fuchs with a 911 part #, could anybody tell me if this is true are not?
They go,
911.361.020 oo
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ol_skul Samba Member
Joined: March 16, 2004 Posts: 9
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Those are not true "Earlies." They are the later series Fuchs, which are not "Deep-Dish." The "...020..." part # clearly designates the later series. Recheck the last 2 digits. You may have to use a little "elbow grease" and a little water to be able to read the digits clearly. Also, if you examine the rear hub (more than likely you'll need to scrub clean the area...) you will discover a date stamp (as well as some esoteric markings). "6 69" is an example of a date stamp = (June 1969).
911.361.020.10 6x15 36.0mm offset (Late Fuchs)
911.361.020.41 7x15 23.3mm offset (Late Fuchs)
911.361.020.42 8x15 10.6mm offset (Late Fuchs)
911.361.020.03 9x15 3.0mm offset (Late Fuchs)
911.361.020.05 11x15 (no offset?) (Late Fuchs) |
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1961bluebug Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2002 Posts: 1137 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Does anybody know what is the weiht of currently reproduced Fuchs wheels? I eould like to know this to calculate shipping and also to compare with original Fuchs wheels. _________________
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1961 Deluxe beetle, 1971 type 181, 1968 T2a Baywindow, 1973 Type 147 "Swiss Fridolin"(sold), 1966 Deluxe sedan (sold), 1983 "Silver Bug" edition (sold), 1961 beetle (sold) |
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Bruce Samba Member
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1961bluebug Samba Member
Joined: November 11, 2002 Posts: 1137 Location: Czech Republic, Europe
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Iīm from Europe so calling them is a little bit complicated. Also they didnīt replied to my email I sent them a long time ago. _________________
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1961 Deluxe beetle, 1971 type 181, 1968 T2a Baywindow, 1973 Type 147 "Swiss Fridolin"(sold), 1966 Deluxe sedan (sold), 1983 "Silver Bug" edition (sold), 1961 beetle (sold) |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17290 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:33 am Post subject: |
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You need to go into your profile and state your location.
Give me a PM on Monday to remind me and I'll call them for you. |
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john7 Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2003 Posts: 1542 Location: Garden grove ca
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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i have a friend with 4 late 6" wheels 2 take the early caps and 2 take the late caps. every late 6 i have seen takes a late cap. what are these wheels? |
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Skim Rants Master
Joined: April 15, 2001 Posts: 17082 Location: GFK 31 Year Vet
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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:40 am Post subject: |
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There are late 6 that take the early 3 prong caps out there. They have the smaller center bore hole. They are the first run of the late sixes. Probably had something to do with using up all those early 3 prong caps they had lying around. _________________ GFK
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3929 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:21 am Post subject: |
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good thread
i'm a bit of a newbie when it comes to fuchs, so apologies
does anyone know if the early deep 6" fuchs would fit on the rear of an early (pre59 lowlight) ghia? with stock axles?
ie clear the arch?
am i right in thinking these are 4.5s front, early 6s back?
or would it be best to go with 5.5s on the back?
5.5s more likely to fit comfortably, & would give a flusher look (ie not deep dish) on the back? right?
so i'd be looking for
2 x 4.5" 901.361.012.01 42mm positive offset
2 x 5.5" 901.361.012.04 42mm positive offset
what do people think would make for the coolest look on an early ghia?
(oh & whats the easiest way of telling an early fuchs from later fuchs )
thanks
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Bruce Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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I'm pretty sure those wheels on the back of that Ghia are deep 6s. It must be tough for that guy to get the wheel off with the tire so close to the fender, and those silly long studs.
You really have to know the tire size he used to know what will fit.
5.5s will fit way easier.
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(oh & whats the easiest way of telling an early fuchs from later fuchs )
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Study every car with Fuchs at the car shows. Ask the owners what they are. Search the Samba's Gallery for pics of Fuchs. |
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3929 Location: England
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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thanks bruce.
details, yes, i'm doing a little more reading up now
(if anyone knows of a particularly good thread on this, plse let me know) _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17290 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 2:23 am Post subject: |
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This is the best thread I've seen on theSamba on Fuchs.
Here's some pics for you.
A late "flat" 6x15:
And an early "deep" 6x15
The arrows point to the differences.
There are many differences between the two. One obvious one is safety bead humps. Early deeps don't have them, late Fuchs do have them. The part numbers also tell the story. Earlys all start with 901 part numbers, lates all start with 911. There's no need to memorize the rest of the digits. |
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3929 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:59 am Post subject: |
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thank you
i think these are early 5.5s all round
look like there's some room at the rear for those 6s... _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Bleyseng Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2005 Posts: 4752 Location: Seattle
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aggro_jo Samba Sticker Pimp
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OK, lets take it to the next level:
Chrome vs. Polishing
I have been told that because earlies are forged, they are not porous enough for the chrome to stick to. I was told to expect bubbling and flaking after 3 years tops. Any of you guys running chrome have input on that? |
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glandnut 40 horses of Fury
Joined: February 26, 2003 Posts: 1432 Location: J-ville, FL
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Posted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:57 am Post subject: |
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A good visual as well on the early vs. late.
As far as chroming goes, I've never done it, and never will. It just makes no sense to me and I feel it really devalues the wheel. What happens when you scrub a curb and split that chrome? You can no longer sand that lip down and polish it back out anymore. Do they look great chromed? Of course. Is it the current cool thing to do? Yes. Is it much less of a pain in the ass to keep up with maintenance wise? Yes. Would you chrome a magnesium BRM? Uh, no. _________________ Looking for aluminum single port Kadron manifolds. |
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vwgearhead Samba Member
Joined: February 21, 2005 Posts: 100 Location: Los Angeles,Ca
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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glandnut,how does chroming the fuchs devalue the wheel?? I just won a set of 5.5s and deep 6s on ebay for my ghia and I was going to send them straight to the chrome shop! let me know please,ok thanx! |
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thebucket Samba Stockbroker
Joined: April 06, 2004 Posts: 3734 Location: Houston Texas
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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glandnut wrote: |
A good visual as well on the early vs. late.
As far as chroming goes, I've never done it, and never will. It just makes no sense to me and I feel it really devalues the wheel. What happens when you scrub a curb and split that chrome? You can no longer sand that lip down and polish it back out anymore. Do they look great chromed? Of course. Is it the current cool thing to do? Yes. Is it much less of a pain in the ass to keep up with maintenance wise? Yes. Would you chrome a magnesium BRM? Uh, no. |
I won't chrome either but its just my preference. Most of my friends who run earlies run the chrome ones. _________________ ITMC-El Presidente
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paulsvw Samba Member
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