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Cali_Army_Guy Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2015 Posts: 2094 Location: Stockton, CA
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2017 9:19 pm Post subject: 1200 header? |
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Where can I find a header for a 1200 (40hp) engine? Literally every site I go to only list 1300-1600 engines. I assume these won't work. Where do you guys with built up 1200's get speed parts from? _________________ 2015 VW Passat Wolfsburg Edition
1966 VW Beetle - Sold |
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:19 am Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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They didn't make headers for those, they were hand fabbed using discarded or stolen steel hand rails & fence posts.
Try vintage speed
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=802629 _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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Erik G Samba Member
Joined: October 16, 2002 Posts: 13270 Location: Tejas!
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hanksjim1 Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2014 Posts: 87 Location: PNW, USA
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:18 am Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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Both unavailable... |
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Cali_Army_Guy Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2015 Posts: 2094 Location: Stockton, CA
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:02 am Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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^^^ correct
And the vintage speed ones have mufflers. I'm looking for just the header so I can be a douche and run a stinger when I feel like. _________________ 2015 VW Passat Wolfsburg Edition
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TDCTDI Samba Advocatus Diaboli
Joined: August 31, 2013 Posts: 12850 Location: North Carolina
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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Get one for a 1600 & cut it down & weld it back up. _________________ Everybody born before 1975 has a story, good, bad, or indifferent, about a VW.
GOFUNDYOURSELF, quit asking everyone to do it for you!
An air cooled VW will make you a hoarder.
Do something, anything, to your project every day, and you will eventually complete it. |
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andk5591 Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2005 Posts: 16757 Location: State College, PA
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:33 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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CIP1 and others have the 1200 Empi header with muffler. Cut the muffler off and weld on a flange to work with the muffler you want to use. Pretty inexpensive and easy.
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C13-3766 _________________ D-Dubya Manx clone - 63 Short pan,1914.
Rosie 65 bug - My mostly stock daily driver.
Woodie 69 VW woodie (Hot VWs 7/12).
"John's car" 64 VW woodie - The first ever
Maxine 61 Cal-look bug - Cindy's daily driver.
Max - 73 standard Beetle hearse project - For sale
66 bug project - Real patina & Suby conversion
There's more, but not keeping them... |
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3552 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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You can modify a merged header easier, since it is adjustable with engine width. For the cylinder 2 and 4 flanges you simply need to drill the stud holes out a size bigger. The 1 and 3 flanges must be cut off, rotated to the right orientation and welded back on.
There were 36 and 40 hp headers made, they are just hard to find. A few years ago, a guy was selling 3 of them on here...
Unfortunately I just threw away my modified merged header...I would have given it to you |
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3552 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 6:48 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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Ok, I must be getting old...still have the merged header that is modified for 36hp engine if you want it.
With a merged header you have no heat and the shoeboxes must be removed |
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jasengine Samba Member
Joined: June 07, 2012 Posts: 95 Location: Wales
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Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2017 4:14 am Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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I bought a 1200 header from VW Heritage some years ago for my 1200, but I had to cut it down due to cutting the heads for higher compression.
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5475 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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txoval wrote: |
You can modify a merged header easier, since it is adjustable with engine width. For the cylinder 2 and 4 flanges you simply need to drill the stud holes out a size bigger. The 1 and 3 flanges must be cut off, rotated to the right orientation and welded back on. |
The 1 and 3 flanges need to be cut and turned? I'm confused. The upper stud faces inboard and the lower stud out. I don't have any newer parts around right now but I was thinking that repop '73 Thing exhaust might work on a buggy and with a single carb (and I've only seen pics of them but width wouldn't be an issue.) _________________
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3552 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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I worded it too dramatically...for the alignment to work properly with the front section of the header, the 1&3 flanges have to rotated slightly for the "j-tubes" to line up with the main header.
The rotation is more than just enlarging the flange holes |
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EVfun Samba Member
Joined: April 01, 2012 Posts: 5475 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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txoval wrote: |
I worded it too dramatically...for the alignment to work properly with the front section of the header, the 1&3 flanges have to rotated slightly for the "j-tubes" to line up with the main header.
The rotation is more than just enlarging the flange holes |
Wouldn't it be easier to just alter the header to make the lower tubes align with the heater boxes? The upper is already being cut up and welded. _________________
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txoval Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2004 Posts: 3552 Location: The Woodlands, TX
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1200 header? |
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You have to keep in mind that it is a full merged header...no heater boxes.
The front flanges do not need to be cut at all, just open of the flange holes a bit
See picture...modifying the layout of the tubes that go to the rear would be a major PITA...cutting the flanges off and rotating to correct the alignment was easy
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