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FaanP Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2017 Posts: 99 Location: South Africa
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:25 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Nice work Buggeee ....
My project is also slowly but surely coming to an end - almost there. |
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Chochobeef Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2013 Posts: 811 Location: Ft. Worth, Texas
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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1 switch can run both relays no problem (remember we are talking milliamps to activate them). Instead of running a new fuse for the switch, just use power off your running (X) circuit through the switch to the relays. You will never pull enough current to pop a fuse on that side of things. Also, no need for a fuse after the relays, only on there power in circuit . 10A is plenty big enough for the fuse to each relay(normally somewhere within 18inches of the battery). As your voltage rises to 14V, it will actually draw less than 8A.
Go with your second drawing minus the fuses after the relays. 12awg should be plenty big enough to run those lights (think stock low beam which is 12awg).
I agree with needing a slightly larger cable from the alt to starter to battery. But don't forget the ground cables as well. 8awg is what I would run for the + and I would throw some 4awg on the - at the battery.
Can't wait to see it in action. |
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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mikewilkinson007 Samba Member
Joined: October 26, 2016 Posts: 554 Location: Nebraska
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Re-read this entire thread and the Camper thread too!
You should be a writer. Great stuff and cool bug. _________________ 72 Super - Marina Blue
1641 AH Dual Port
Dual Weber ICT 34's
Bosch 034
Long Gone: 70 Vert, 66, 68, 73SB, 70, 72, 61 Rag and a 64 with a cinder block in the spare tire well. |
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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honeybeetle Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2016 Posts: 12 Location: Bloomington
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Buggeee wrote: |
To finish out the removable apron discussion here is a picture of how it looks on the sides, where the spot welds were drilled out. The bit used takes out the apron metal while leaving the body metal in place. Its just set into place in this picture. I think the long term goal will be to clean up these sides and mount it with some bolts. For now, I'm just going to smoosh it on there with the fenders, as it seems lots of others have done.
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Hey Buggeee, what did you end up doing here? Anything more permanent/secure? And thanks for the epic story of a build! |
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TX-73 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2013 Posts: 1133 Location: Texas
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Buggeee wrote: |
mikewilkinson007 wrote: |
Re-read this entire thread and the Camper thread too!
You should be a writer. Great stuff and cool bug. |
OMG Mike you must be really bored! Lol. Thank you soooo much. We all are - aren't we? I've gotten so much out of all the threads that are available on so many subjects. The internet is really a useful tool and, in this environment, very enjoyable as well. |
You are so right. Some of us older resto guys remember having to send for catalogs to be mailed so we could call to order parts. Info was related to who you found or local clubs. All worked at the time but the resources these days are amazing.
Really nice looking results, well done. _________________ My 1973 Standard Beetle Build SOLD
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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honeybeetle wrote: |
Buggeee wrote: |
To finish out the removable apron discussion here is a picture of how it looks on the sides, where the spot welds were drilled out. The bit used takes out the apron metal while leaving the body metal in place. Its just set into place in this picture. I think the long term goal will be to clean up these sides and mount it with some bolts. For now, I'm just going to smoosh it on there with the fenders, as it seems lots of others have done. |
Hey Buggeee, what did you end up doing here? Anything more permanent/secure? And thanks for the epic story of a build! |
Too kind HoneyBeetle, I'm trying to keep the onlookers involved as the help I've gotten throughout this has been phenomenal.
Its still just smooshed in there, which is intended to be temporary. I have found that it wiggles loose after a while, causing a buzzing vibration sound at idle, usually manifesting when I pull up at a light next to a cutie. Not to worry, the cutie I'm next to is in the passenger seat. For a while I'd just hop out, and kick it back into tightness with a boot from my right foot. Last weekend I got tired of that so I loosened up a fender bolt or two on the right side and slid a piece of scrap metal in there as a shim and smooshed it back together. Its holding for now.
I don't even have the fender beads in there at this point. The car is a rolling mock-up for now as I continue to work on the mechanicals. I'm taking stuff off and putting it back on as this gets fixed or that gets replaced. Once I have it all in place, I'll start tearing it down an area at a time and do the body and finish work on it. I'm out of reliable weather for the year here in Ohio so, if my maker is willing, I'd like to start the body and spraying work next summer. In the meantime there is plenty to keep me busy on it as time permits.
I think the next will either be fitting the double filiment bulb sockets into the 67 front turnsignals or installing the sending unit/gas gauge pieces that will keep me from topping-off every 100 miles, which is what I'm doing now to feel comfortable that I've got some amount of gas in the tank.
If you doll-up your apron before I do, please post me a pic and description so I can copy you. What do you think about pop-riviting in some of those threaded rivets into the lower body corners to allow for some bolts through the side of the apron? A corresponding hole, slightly larger than the bolt head, would be drilled in the fender lip to clear over it when the fender is installed. Just thinkin' _________________ 1966 Sportsmobile Camper https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
72 Super Duper http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
(adopted out) 61 Turkis Pile https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728764
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Every setback is an opportunity to learn stuff and to buy new tools. |
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MSBenko Samba Member
Joined: January 31, 2017 Posts: 90 Location: Winter Haven, FL
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:16 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Buggeee, I have been interested in a removable apron as well. While searching for ideas here on TheSamba one day, I came across this thread that I bookmarked. Haven't been brave enough to try it yet.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=222934 _________________ Mike
75 Standard Beetle
72 Standard Beetle (first car) sold in '96 |
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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As long as I'm talkin' bout aprons, and as long as my build thread has been bumped up to where someone might see it for a minute....
Do you guys see those little spot weld remnants, those little dots, that run along the opening where the deck lid meets the apron? Those are where a little thin metal strip used to be attached and it would serve to hold the rubber seal that wraps around the deck lid opening, I believe. There was one of those across the cowel area under my front hood, and along the whole line of where the front hood meets the car. Those metal strips are all gone... and only the spot weld marks remain as evidence that they were ever there.
Where in the world do I get those metal strips? I have found the rubber seals easily, seem to be everywhere. But what about replacement metal strips that I can spot weld back on so I have the channels necessary to install those seals? I thought I ran by them once but I cannot find them again.
If anyone is happening to see this and knows I'd be Grateful. If not I'll post a separate thread about that one day when I get closer to that phase.
Thanks Peeps!!! _________________ 1966 Sportsmobile Camper https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
72 Super Duper http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
(adopted out) 61 Turkis Pile https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728764
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Every setback is an opportunity to learn stuff and to buy new tools. |
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cdknight Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2016 Posts: 11 Location: Apex, NC, USA
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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RVAmike97 Samba Member
Joined: June 06, 2017 Posts: 140 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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I really like what you did with the taillights... I haven't really looked around to see what other people have done, but like you, I want to end up with more of a hot rod appearance. You confirmed to me that some people do mix match era parts. I'm sure the purists scoff, but oh well.... Looks great so far !!!
My '71 lived in Ohio for a while !!! |
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honeybeetle Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2016 Posts: 12 Location: Bloomington
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Man, I love the samba! Those DZUS fasteners are slick looking! Buggeee, I believe I'm going something along this route. Got my apron off this last weekend, and I'm ready to try something. Plus, it's another excuse to buy a welder... |
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EA812 Samba Member
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EA812 Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2008 Posts: 1223 Location: North central, CT
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 5:01 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Buggeee wrote: |
As long as I'm talkin' bout aprons, and as long as my build thread has been bumped up to where someone might see it for a minute....
Do you guys see those little spot weld remnants, those little dots, that run along the opening where the deck lid meets the apron? Those are where a little thin metal strip used to be attached and it would serve to hold the rubber seal that wraps around the deck lid opening, I believe. There was one of those across the cowel area under my front hood, and along the whole line of where the front hood meets the car. Those metal strips are all gone... and only the spot weld marks remain as evidence that they were ever there.
Where in the world do I get those metal strips? I have found the rubber seals easily, seem to be everywhere. But what about replacement metal strips that I can spot weld back on so I have the channels necessary to install those seals? I thought I ran by them once but I cannot find them again.
If anyone is happening to see this and knows I'd be Grateful. If not I'll post a separate thread about that one day when I get closer to that phase.
Thanks Peeps!!! |
I've had to fix some of that channel before.
_________________ Project 66 Daily Driver http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=538786&highlight=
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heimlich VWNOS.com
Joined: November 20, 2016 Posts: 6558 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2017 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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What do they do with the surfboard?
Buggeee wrote: |
Just a quick pic of my girl kissing a cousin at the local cruise on Thursday. |
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Tom Butler Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2016 Posts: 287 Location: Bay Area, California
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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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I see the most out of shape guys with those boards on their roofs.
I have a 50 dollar bounty for anyone in my club that has a surfboard on their car to use it and take a picture.
been over a year and no one has come to claim the prize.
vanity I guess. _________________ 1971 Super Beetle
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=674120
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Instead of converting your car to a different color, why not just buy one that is a color you like? |
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joey1320 Samba Member
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Buggeee Samba Member
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