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Buggeee Samba Member
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Tom K. Samba Member
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MACJELLY58 Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2014 Posts: 395 Location: HONOLULU, HAWAII
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:42 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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I'll never be a Columbo.
I hadn't even noticed that the fenders were not painted like the rest of the Bug!
Not disappointed though, that means MORE metal working Fun!!
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7276 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Great pics on the light bucket. I have to make this exact repair on my '74 Super's driver side bucket. Now I know what to do! _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!! |
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:25 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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One of the front fenders is from another car and had been undercoated with rubber. Removing the undercoating and sandblasting questionable areas revealed a compromised seam under the headlight bucket. I thought about seam sealer but decided to fill and bury it in Duraglass, which is very strong and does not take in moisture.
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(I'm not posting these snippets of mundanity to test your patience Peeps. I'm trying to get the treadmill rolling again on this project. Just like Bumble the Snow Monster of the North.... Put one foot in front of the other, and soon you'll be walking along.) _________________ 1966 Sportsmobile Camper https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
72 Super Duper http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
(adopted out) 61 Turkis Pile https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728764
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7276 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:52 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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One dent and crack at a time Buggee! Now if we could get Jeremy_G to follow your lead and return to his build we'd have two of the best shows on this forum running again! _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!! |
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Chinaclipper Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2019 Posts: 626 Location: Somewhere in the great Midwest
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Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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vamram wrote: |
One dent and crack at a time Buggee! Now if we could get Jeremy_G to follow your lead and return to his build we'd have two of the best shows on this forum running again! |
Roger that vamram!
And don't forget to mention my friend VW_Jimbo, the four people (among the many here at Samba) who have helped me immensely, especially with VW body work.
Jeremy_G
Buggeee
vamram
And VW_Jimbo _________________ China Clippers Official 1971 Super Beetle Project!
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728089&highlight= |
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MACJELLY58 Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2014 Posts: 395 Location: HONOLULU, HAWAII
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:09 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Buggeee wrote: |
Just like Bumble the Snow Monster of the North.... Put one foot in front of the other, and soon you'll be walking along.) |
You are a wealth of information.
I totally forgot what his name was. Just like Rudolph, we'll be following you! |
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 7:05 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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The headliner kit that I ordered in the spring, has finally arrived!!! the Super Duper is back underway.
Here is the work station with the headliner and padding kits inventoried and ready to go.
The can of contact cement that had been in transit from California for six months was popped open and hard as a rock, so I stopped at the hardware store and bought a gallon for 40 bucks.
The can of spray came through just fine and I used that to put up the roof padding according to the JBugs padding video. Sprayed each surface, let it sit for 5 minutes to tack and then pressed the together - instantantly bonded.
Here is the work station for the brush on liquid glue. I'd scoop a plastic cup out of the gallon and close it right back up. One disposable chip brush and one cup of glue would be good for a session and a fresh set would come out after the break.
From watching the JBugs single piece headliner video, as well as the 5 part TMI early beetle headliner videos on YouTube, and studying the JBugs original install headliner picture of the parts, I surmised that the idea is to do this in large part like upholstering a seat cushion, but with glue along the edge instead of staples.
Here is the foam in place, leaving a a space along the full length for each edge of the vinyl to be hung with glue.
I was also able to hang a few pieces of vinyl, which took a really long time. I wore a painting respirator the whole time. Tiring, I finally spilled a cup full of glue all on the floor if the car and took that as a sign it was time to clean up for dinner! This feels like the hardest thing I've done on this car, but it still feels very good to finally be here at this stage of the build.
Progress, not perfection. _________________ 1966 Sportsmobile Camper https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
72 Super Duper http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
(adopted out) 61 Turkis Pile https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728764
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VW_Jimbo Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2016 Posts: 9880 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:09 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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You are having fun!!!!!
Do you have a heat gun? If so, you can reactivate the glue with it and s t r e c t c h the material enough to remove the wrinkles. It works best while pressing the headliner in. I like to allow the headliner to sit out in the sun for a few hours, until you can smell hot vinyl. Then start applying it to the adhesive.
A squirt gun full of acetone is great for removing set up adhesive and headliner. Just a small squirt at the spot you need to unadhere. Works great. But test a small piece as Acetone, if strong enough, can melt vinyl! Dont ask. _________________ Jimbo
There is never enough time to do it right the first time, but all the time necessary the second time!
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Basically, a whole bunch of fuckery to achieve a look. |
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2021 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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VW_Jimbo wrote: |
You are having fun!!!!!
Do you have a heat gun? If so, you can reactivate the glue with it and s t r e c t c h the material enough to remove the wrinkles. It works best while pressing the headliner in. I like to allow the headliner to sit out in the sun for a few hours, until you can smell hot vinyl. Then start applying it to the adhesive.
A squirt gun full of acetone is great for removing set up adhesive and headliner. Just a small squirt at the spot you need to unadhere. Works great. But test a small piece as Acetone, if strong enough, can melt vinyl! Dont ask. |
Thank you for the tips Jimbo. I had no idea what chemical to clean the glue with. I do have a heat gun but am using a hair dryer here so I don't overdo it and accidentally damage the material. It's a foreign skill set for me to be working on upholstery and the fun part of the learning curve lies ahead of me somewhere in the distance. I'm looking forward to its arrival though! _________________ 1966 Sportsmobile Camper https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
72 Super Duper http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
(adopted out) 61 Turkis Pile https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728764
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vamram Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2012 Posts: 7276 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2021 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Looking great Buggee! I really like that idea of using the window welting to help line up and trim the b-pillar and rear window trim. Wish I had thought of that when I did my '73!! _________________ Eventually, "we are what we pretend to be.
Give peace a chance - Stop Russian-Soviet Aggression!!
'74 Super 9/16 - present, in refurb process.
'73 Super - 6/18 - Present - Daily Driver!
'75 Super Le Grande...waiting it's turn in line behind '74.
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Save the Supers!! |
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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fredybear Samba Member
Joined: March 02, 2004 Posts: 690 Location: Ca
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Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2021 5:13 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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I wont be happy if I see a wrinkle Too your room you go
That green is really cool. Keep goin |
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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MACJELLY58 Samba Member
Joined: September 26, 2014 Posts: 395 Location: HONOLULU, HAWAII
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 3:27 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Howzit Bugeee,
Much like I said about the paint color. I kinda like the Wrinkles. If it's all consistent...like all symmetrical the way it is... I'm digging it!!
My favorite animal is the Elephant, so I'm kinda bias.
Really glad to see you back on this project for a while. Carry on my Good Fellow |
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Buggeee Samba Member
Joined: December 22, 2016 Posts: 4391 Location: Stuck in Ohio
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 10:54 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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I love the way the chrome aluminum window trim looks, and I hate putting it in!
Here's how I do it after a few bugs worth of frustrations, mine and friends.
I use NO lube between the rubber and glass, so it stays on the glass better during all the manipulating between now and the install into the car.
The trim does not come perfectly shaped so I spend lots of gentle, caressing love slowly coaxing it into shapely submission starting at the sharpest corner and moving out from there. If I rush this part or get forcefull, the trim gets wavey, so it's all about the slow sliding motions, repeatedly comparing to the crack in the rubber where it will live. When I lose patience and kink a piece I use a metal punch of appropriate diameter to gently return the straight edge. Here is a comparison of before and after, just resting on the rubber.
Here is the undoing of a mild wave.
The front window had an overlap that I trimmed with a cut-off wheel and de-burred with a chainsaw file and sandpaper.
I use sandpaper (150 grit) to debur the ends of the trim and the little collars.
I use Windex now (rather than silicone or dish soap which get out of control) and limit it ONLY to the trim crack, NOT where the rubber meets the glass - have a paper towel hand to keep it out of the rubber-to-glass joint.
Starting at the sharpest corner and working out from there in both directions, I install the trim pressing the rubber and the trim with my thumbs and using little tools as needed along the way.
Keep checking all the corners to see when the rubber starts pulling off the glass so it can be addressed right away and does not become a do over situation.
When the first side is in, I slide the collars completely over the trim, and will slide them back over the second trim piece when it is fully installed.
Here we are!
I install the weedwhacker plastic string in the window crack - overlapping at the top most of the way across, and lube the rubber and window opening fully with windex
With a helper on the outside pressing on the glass, I start at the top and pull the string DIRECTLY TO THE CENTER of the window. I yelled that part because it gets goofed up when I pull sideways, or towards my chest, or wherever. It HAS TO be pulled directly to the center of the glass to work, and it will. Spray some more windex on there as needed to keep it wet. Use little tools as needed along the way.
After it seems to be in, I go round and round pressing the glass in with my hands, pushing the lip outward with my thumbs inside and out. Little tools if needed to pull a lip out or something. The most productive move is the heel of the hands pushing directly down on the chrome stip, smooshing the rubber seal into the chasm and the glass with it. After it's all smooshed in fully and no more movement is goin on, I'm done!
_________________ 1966 Sportsmobile Camper https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...mp;start=0
72 Super Duper http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=672387
(adopted out) 61 Turkis Pile https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=728764
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Maddel Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Fantastic job - "so wird's gemacht" !
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jeremy.g Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2019 Posts: 400 Location: VA
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Excellent job! Thanks for documenting your process. I've never done the chrome strip install, so it was helpful to see the steps.
Looks great.
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VW_Jimbo Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2016 Posts: 9880 Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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DUDE! That moulding is a pain in the ass to do!!!! You did a great job. It looks fantastic! I always prefer the chrome around the windows. Even in the late 80s when everyone was into the Cal look, I was a chrome around the windows guy!
Nice job! _________________ Jimbo
There is never enough time to do it right the first time, but all the time necessary the second time!
TDCTDI wrote: |
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67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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