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Buggeee
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 Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:38 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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No way!!! Not yet. Well. Maybe I'll take just a couple to establish some before shots so the shots of my imagined victory camp at a meet will have a little context when its all healthy and fun. This is my Super's thread though so I'm not going to bury it in the Bug House.
It's not that bad really. But... its been biding its time as a hunting cabin waiting for salvation and there is no way I'll get the better half of me in there as it is. I've done this before on a long, long trailer and this is going to be a snap.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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How does that sleep six. Are you stacked like cord wood?
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Have been away from this thread for awhile fretting over my own 72 super..
Wherever did you find that camper, that is awesome. The only thing that might beat it is that unobtanium 360 swivel camper. |
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Buggeee
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| How does that sleep six. Are you stacked like cord wood? |
Got that right! There's minimalism and then there's whatchutalkinboutwillis.
Supposedly four across the dinette when it's folded down and then two more up on bunks hanging from the ceiling like in a pirate boat somehow. I can't even imagine it. I'm going to try to convince the boss that two of us can fit.
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Have been away from this thread for awhile fretting over my own 72 super..
Wherever did you find that camper, that is awesome. The only thing that might beat it is that unobtanium 360 swivel camper. |
Yes you have a good point but I counter with the fact that the unobtanium swivel camper has only been sighted never captured. The best I've found is a YouTube video for some guy seeming to haul one out of the junkyard but does anyone have any idea whatever happened to that? I threw a net over this one and brought it home so I can sell tickets at the circus for people look at it. I stumbled on it by accident on Craigslist when I was listing my old Long Long Trailer because it was time for that thing to go. 36 feet to 13 feet in one afternoon. The camper is dead... Long live the Bug House. This is what I call divine intervention. (Kinda like you not burning your house down with both bugs in it with your smoking distributor wire. He's got the whole world in his hands SB!!!) 
A Bug's life, never a dull moment! 
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Buggeee
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 7:16 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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So I've got new 67 turnsignals (or European) so I can get the squares off my front fenders and a set of 67 rear lights so I can get a bit more hot rod out of the rear now that I'm running the meaty low pro rubbers.
In the same box is an electric windshield washer set up - from tank and pump to button (a prior owner trimmed off the metal bracket for the stock bottle so I'm starting from scratch).
Also in there is a new gas measurement feed-back reporter system.... From sending unit to vibrator to guage, because mine is more than a bit buggy in more that a few ways.
The only problem is my Super Duper is burried under a literal mountain of life preservers, fishing poles, s'mores sticks, camping chairs, etc. I can barely pull the garage door shut and every time I open it stuff comes tumbling off the sloped back of my Super onto the driveway again! When I downsized this week from our old 36 foot long, long trailer into the 13 foot Playpac I discovered just how much nonsense you can store away in a 36 foot trailer over the better part of a decade... It's ridiculous!
So until we sort though all that stuff, I'm stuck staring at my box of parts.
In the meantime I'm going to attack the Playpac.
I don't know If I mentioned it before but one of my minions and I made a trip this spring to pick up a Beetle trailer hitch off Craigslist on a whim. I really wasn't sure what we'd do with it but thought what the heck toss it in the garage. Now, however... It was obviously part of a bigger, yet to be revealed scenario involving the Bug House. I just have the hitch, that mounts to the bumper and maybe the transaxle horns? I don't have the hardware so I'm not sure.
Once we get it to the point that I can squeeze into the garage somehow I'm going to yank that hitch out of there and take a picture of it so I can post a thread asking about how to put it on a bug. In the meantime, though, if any of you Peeps happen to know an appropriate thread or have ever put one of these hitches on your bug that'd be cool if you could let me know. I know Cusser pulls farm implements around with his maybe he's got a hitch on, I guess I'll find out as I go.
I've decided to park the Playpac on the fiberglass RV forum because those folks know eggs like we know bugs. Here's a link to my build thread if anyone wants to stop by for a coffee...
http://www.fiberglassrv.com/forums/f56/buggeees-1973-playpac-build-thread-80903.html
Still gone fishin' but will be back at the buggin' as soon as I can get it out of the garage... Won't be long 
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I like the Playpac.
Looks like a fun project ... will follow your progress .... |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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I don't know If I mentioned it before but one of my minions and I made a trip this spring to pick up a Beetle trailer hitch off Craigslist on a whim. I really wasn't sure what we'd do with it but thought what the heck toss it in the garage. Now, however... It was obviously part of a bigger, yet to be revealed scenario involving the Bug House. I just have the hitch, that mounts to the bumper and maybe the transaxle horns? I don't have the hardware so I'm not sure.
Once we get it to the point that I can squeeze into the garage somehow I'm going to yank that hitch out of there and take a picture of it so I can post a thread asking about how to put it on a bug. In the meantime, though, if any of you Peeps happen to know an appropriate thread or have ever put one of these hitches on your bug that'd be cool if you could let me know. I know Cusser pulls farm implements around with his maybe he's got a hitch on, I guess I'll find out as I go.
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Hah. Saw your post in Cusser's thread and PM'd you as to not clutter his thread, but since you asked in this one..
I picked up a beetle hitch a few years ago and made a bracket for it, here's the thread - https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=590204
It uses U-bolts over the frame horns and probably originally attached to the bumper itself. I initially had a thin aftermarket rear bumper that wouldn't have held up, so I added an additional bracket between the bumper mounts.
As you saw in Cusser's thread a decent bumper can hold quite a bit, so either way.
Nice work on the bug, awesome little camper. |
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Buggeee
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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I don't know If I mentioned it before but one of my minions and I made a trip this spring to pick up a Beetle trailer hitch off Craigslist on a whim. I really wasn't sure what we'd do with it but thought what the heck toss it in the garage. Now, however... It was obviously part of a bigger, yet to be revealed scenario involving the Bug House. I just have the hitch, that mounts to the bumper and maybe the transaxle horns? I don't have the hardware so I'm not sure.
Once we get it to the point that I can squeeze into the garage somehow I'm going to yank that hitch out of there and take a picture of it so I can post a thread asking about how to put it on a bug. In the meantime, though, if any of you Peeps happen to know an appropriate thread or have ever put one of these hitches on your bug that'd be cool if you could let me know. I know Cusser pulls farm implements around with his maybe he's got a hitch on, I guess I'll find out as I go.
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Hah. Saw your post in Cusser's thread and PM'd you as to not clutter his thread, but since you asked in this one..
I picked up a beetle hitch a few years ago and made a bracket for it, here's the thread - https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=590204
It uses U-bolts over the frame horns and probably originally attached to the bumper itself. I initially had a thin aftermarket rear bumper that wouldn't have held up, so I added an additional bracket between the bumper mounts.
As you saw in Cusser's thread a decent bumper can hold quite a bit, so either way.
Nice work on the bug, awesome little camper. |
Thank you Windfish! That thread is very helpful and I will refer to it when I weld up a bracket for my hitch. I love this forum. Samba Peeps are the best.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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AWESOME FREAKIN TRAILER!!!!
I had heard about these, but never have I seen one anywhere! I think that's Bigfoot sleeping in the bed!
Saw an ad for one a little while ago, going through some OLD magazines at Grandmas house. That's as close as I had been.
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Buggeee
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:15 pm Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Dudes... Dudes....
The inventor of the Playpac just dropped a pat-on-the-back on my build thread over there in Eggland. 😎 He is 78 and still passionate about his babies!!! Dubbers are a rare breed for sure.
I've added a link to my Playpac build thread in my Samba sig below as I'm parked over there for a while. My poor Super is still buried under a mountain of fishing rods so I've been tearing into it's chase vehicle in a mad rush to have it ready for Labor Day weekend.
Miss you Peeps terribly and can't wait to mount those 67 lights! But... Still gone fishin' ☺️
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Well the bug and I are enjoying the summer together... but I think she's itching for a little tinkering because she won't give me a right turn signal anymore. Left is on demand so I know she still cares but ask for a right turn and forget about it.
Here she is hanging in the shade at a soccer match.
Its been great having her around. One of the minion's had a starter go so I just handed over the keys to my daily and said... "guess I'll have to drive the bug for a week"
Wish I hand't told her about the '67 turn signals and taillights though, no patience whatsoever with this one... Guess I'll have to get them out of the box and see what I'm dealing with here.
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Both the bug and playpac are looking great. That epoxy floor on the playpac looks incredible. Wonder if I could do that to my bug instead of carpet?  
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Buggeee
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| Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:22 am Post subject: Re: Buggeee's 1972 Super Beetle |
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Thank you Joey! I think if it was a Baja Bug it would be great... Just hose it out!!!
So I thought about it and Joey might have a point, she may be moping because I've been spending so much time with the Playpac. I never did tell her it was for her, wanting it to be a surprise and all. Time to let her know and see if that fixes the 'ol right turn signal silent treatment. So I set up an introduction...
This gives me confidence that an acceptable hitch height can be obtained, but she still wasn't buying it. She knows the Playpac is really for me and my better half, leaving her with all the work of dragging it around.
So time for a little one on one. I think the clean lines of the earlier taillights are a bit more hot rod than the church windows. To take off the rear tail lights its just a matter of two little nuts under the fender. Soak these with PB Blaster if you intend to keep the tail lights, if not, just let them break off I guess.
When going from late model to early model taillights, your gonna lose the back up light. For me its all good because I have not yet gotten that circuit together and still haven't even installed the line fuse thats back there behind the shroud. So... I'll have a back up light solution down the road. So many things are possible with those little led light strips and what not.
Also the ground wire clipped onto my late model lights but no tab on the 67 reproductions. Time to add a little fitting to bolt the ground to an internal screw that is holding the housing together. I use the marine fittings because they come with shrinkwrap that has glue in it so it all melts to a nice watertight seal when you heat it up with your friend's lighter.
Whenever you cut into this old 12v wiring you always find that the strands are grey, not copper. That's oxidation even inside the wiring harness. I always brush lightly with sandpaper, or here a scotchbrite pad, the ends to a shiny copper so I get a good connection.
Here's the 67 wired up. I just clipped the blue back-up wire because its not connected to anything here, or under the bonnet. On the dual filament bulb, you want the fatter filament for the brakes and turn, the thinner one for the taillight. So if your lights are the wrong way just switch those two wires. To avoid potential disassembly, I looked on the original to see that, in my case, the black wire went to the copper contact that was clockwise from the deeper pin on the light socket. It worked. Stare at yours for a bit and you'll see what I'm talking about.
A note about the taillight seals. The ones that come with the reproduction lights are... well kinda weak. I ordered the "super deluxe" tail light seals separately. The deluxe is on the ground next to the light and the one of the ones that came with it is hanging limply in my hand. (Beavis and Butt Head laugh track please...)
The bolt holes are different on the earlier lights. The lights on earlier bugs sit lower, so I used the stock lower hole and laid the gasket to get a read on where the top hole should go, measuring a straight line between the two original holes as a reference.
Now I'm not one to talk bad about my girl, and you all have been very kind to lay low with conversation about her drooping right rear tail light. She suffered from what many on here have experienced... a bad case of aftermarket rear fender on one side. They can never seem to get the bolt holes in the right spot. Time to fix that.
Now I've seen many solutions on this SAMBA for this affliction, and all involved math. Triangles, vector analysis... zzzzzzz. I'm not good at math.
I took a caprenter's right angle and lined it up with the apron seam, taking a read of the distance out from the little corner where the apron and body lines meet. The stock lower hole is right there, and a certain distance away.
Then I took a read on the distance from the upper hole to the body line, keeping the carpenter's right angle eye-balled to the apron line.
Using the same method, I just flipped the carpenter's angle to the other direction and marked my holes on the right rear fender. Here are the two holes I drilled to the stock measurements, compared to the variety of useless holes that had been supplied by the aftermarket fender maker. I rounded them out with the drill bit for a little oversized maneuverability when tweeking the final tightening of the taillight into the right position:
And... here's the after... 
It's all good right? All lights working, tail - check, brake-check, left turn-check, right turn -.... right turn?... Awww come on sweetie, gimmie a right woudja?
Ok... how about this. I got you a little bling... LED
Not to say my girl is superficial, but a little reminder of how special she is goes a long way. Here's the brakes in mostly daylight.
They look cool in the dark. Really bright and the on-off is crisp as crisp can be.
Thats when she told me... she had a loose wiring harnes plug under the steering wheel. Why didn't you just say so? Lets snap that into place for you. There you go. Left, right, left, right. All day long.
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Good to see you spending more time on her. I'm sure she likes when you give her attention and spend money on her.
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...and here is a daylight pic.
I'm not a fan of the bumper but I really like the lights. I'm bouncing around some solutions so we'll see what pops out of the o'l room full of monkeys and typewriters.
Of note... every time... no make that EVERY TIME this beetle hits the road some human or another, and usually both, calls out props. Its a running joke now with the better half and once again, unbroken streak. This time a gracious soul also expressly referenced the lights. Had to smile at the timing of that one because my boss was standing right there (told ya they were cool didn't I? hee hee).
But here's what I'm leading to... one group of pre-drivers popped out a "what kind of car is that?" Its a VW Beetle I said. "I told you so!!!" (exclaimed while slapping the other pre-driver on the arm).
Sheesh. My bug is not the only thing getting old.
Drive 'em while you can peeps... there's humans out there who have yet to witness a bug with their own eyes and have never heard the bird chirp.
We're the only ones who can save them!!!!
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| Nice, make sure you put a couple relays on those things. Probably 2 relays, with 1 powering 2 lights and a 10amp inline fuse on each relay. I'm sure you could run 1 30/40A relay, but why risk? You could even have 2 switches, 1 for the inner 2 and 1 for the outer 2. Just a thought. |
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| Nice, make sure you put a couple relays on those things. Probably 2 relays, with 1 powering 2 lights and a 10amp inline fuse on each relay. I'm sure you could run 1 30/40A relay, but why risk? You could even have 2 switches, 1 for the inner 2 and 1 for the outer 2. Just a thought. |
Dude good heads up thank you.
I've been mapping them in my noggin since bolting them on and here's how it looked in the empty cavern:
The list of necessaries -
I have a single NOS Fog light switch that matches the knobs on my dash and will fill an empty hole so... one switch for the whole sunburning surprise.
Each light is rated to be fused at no more than 15 amps.
Each light is 55 watts so 55 watts / 12 volts = 4.58333... amps per light
That totals at 18.3333 amps for the package of four lights so one 15 amp fuse won't cut it.
I'll need to break them into two sets of two to get each set under a 15 amp fuse... (9.167 amps for each set of two)
A relay is rated at 40 amps.
Here we go....
A fat set of hot and neutral wires directly from the battery (no floating ground here)...
Leading to a 30 amp fused hot wire prior to the relay...
Out from the relay comes two hot wire branches fused at 15 amps each, leading to each set of two lights.
As it sits in my paranoid mind right now I'd place a 15 amp fuse in the wire to the switch, protecting the switch as well.
Flux capacitors always convey easier on paper so here's what I'm trying to say.
So Chocho, with your abundance of caution on not loading a single relay with the whole burden, and instead going with two relays to spread the load, I think it looks more like this...
Aaaaaa.... the hamster is earning his feed for sure now and that wheel is spinnin fast... No sleep for me tonight!!!
Edit - I can remove the 15 amp fuses after the relays since I'd be fusing the relay at 15 instead of 30.... and I can fuse the switch lower at 10 or probably even 5 amps because all its doing is throwing the relay.
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