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Burlyhammer Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:56 am Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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I put this shifter bushing on and it seems too small. I checked the gallery and saw similar issues. It seems like this will wear prematurely. Does anyone have any experience with this issue, if it is one?
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ryans65 Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2016 Posts: 1260 Location: Yulee FL
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 5:52 am Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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I just did that bushing on the 65 Kombi I put the floor in, I smeared a bunch of moly grease all over the the shifter tube and the bushing and got it in. It ends up wearing the paint off anyways so maybe take a strip of sandpaper and take it down to bare metal just in the area that it rides on then cover it in the grease of your choice... anti seize worked well on my truck but I couldn't find it in my garage so I used the moly on the kombi. |
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sgellis Samba Member
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hazetguy Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:02 am Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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Burlyhammer wrote: |
I put this shifter bushing on and it seems too small. I checked the gallery and saw similar issues. It seems like this will wear prematurely. Does anyone have any experience with this issue, if it is one?
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what's going to wear the bushing is all that rust pitting on the shift rod.
the gap in the bushing is typical, although it does seem a bit wider than normal. find a genuine VW bushing. _________________ thebucket: I invested in hoodride, now DBD won't return my call?
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hazetguy Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:07 am Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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Burlyhammer wrote: |
The beveled spacer appears to be the same thickness as the step. Here’s the drawing I got from the Bentley manual:
Item 5 from the 1500 side looks to me to be that beveled spacer. I would appreciate any feedback.
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looks like you have the correct oil deflector washer based on the diagram and the way yours is set up in your initial pic looks right. i'll delete my posting, as it is not applicable to your bus.
perhaps someone who has done more of the weirdo 1500 reduction boxes can chime in. it's been a while since i've taken one apart or worked on that particular style. _________________ thebucket: I invested in hoodride, now DBD won't return my call?
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69813 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:59 am Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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RGB discussion above:
Yes, I wasn't 100% sure from the original posts but his assembly looked like the 63-only rear end stuff, which has a few unique pieces.
I have taken mine apart before but unfortunately I didn't take very many photos so I would go off any shop or parts diagrams you can view. _________________ How to Post Photos
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zozo Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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I just did this a couple days ago. I put the bushing in the bracket, then a bit of grease on the rod, then slid the rod into the bushing and slid it up the rod into position. Worked fine, very little force required. I was also worried about the gap, but it closes up considerably once it’s in the bracket with the rod through it. I effed up the metal ring, so I’ll have to figure out something else.
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I put this shifter bushing on and it seems too small. I checked the gallery and saw similar issues. It seems like this will wear prematurely. Does anyone have any experience with this issue, if it is one?
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wcfvw69 Samba Purist
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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I have to agree with Jon. You should consider cutting out that pitted up area on the shift rod and replacing it with new, smooth metal.
I don't see any new bushing lasting long sliding over that area, even greased. _________________ Contact me at [email protected]
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EverettB Administrator
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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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Burlyhammer wrote: |
I put this shifter bushing on and it seems too small. I checked the gallery and saw similar issues. It seems like this will wear prematurely. Does anyone have any experience with this issue, if it is one?
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Apart from the rod, does that bracket the bushing goes into look tweaked to anyone else?
The area with the hole for the bushing
It should be flat and at a nice right angle
NOS bracket from the Gallery, on the left:
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Burlyhammer Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1693 Location: Great north woods Maine
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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:26 am Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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hazetguy wrote: |
Burlyhammer wrote: |
The beveled spacer appears to be the same thickness as the step. Here’s the drawing I got from the Bentley manual:
Item 5 from the 1500 side looks to me to be that beveled spacer. I would appreciate any feedback.
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looks like you have the correct oil deflector washer based on the diagram and the way yours is set up in your initial pic looks right. i'll delete my posting, as it is not applicable to your bus.
perhaps someone who has done more of the weirdo 1500 reduction boxes can chime in. it's been a while since i've taken one apart or worked on that particular style. |
I appreciate your input. It seems strange to have this setup for such a limited run with minimal documentation. I guess they were always looking to improve things.
Thanks Hazetguy
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RGB discussion above:
Yes, I wasn't 100% sure from the original posts but his assembly looked like the 63-only rear end stuff, which has a few unique pieces.
I have taken mine apart before but unfortunately I didn't take very many photos so I would go off any shop or parts diagrams you can view. |
My friend J.P. has the 1963 shop manual. He looked up the 1500 option, and confirmed that I had the parts in the proper order. I will take a few photos of the configuration before I reassemble the boxes.
Thanks Everett |
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Burlyhammer Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1693 Location: Great north woods Maine
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:55 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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Thank you all for your input on my shift rod and bushing. First of all, the bracket that holds the bushing was bent:
The shift rod itself is pitted, but not rusty. I sand blasted it, master coated it, primered two coats, and painted two coats. I think the problem was too much paint. I am going to grease it well and put it in as is for now. I was PMed regarding a nice looking 2 piece brass bushing. I may go that route if/when this one fails:
I bought the upgraded accelerator pedal lever kit. It is similar to the Buttys Bits one. I think this one has a smaller bearing. The pictures I saw of it showed it bolted to the outside of the bracket under the floor:
This did not work for me. The linkage angle was extreme. I think it would saw through the grommet, floor mat quickly. I ended up setting it up where the Buttys one goes. It is better, but I had to put the top end of the linkage through the accelerator pedal from the outside. It works great though. I also got a greaseable E Brake pivot pin from Jeremy H.
I plumbed up the brake hard lines. I bought a Wolfgang dual circuit MC kit from a swap meet last year. The spacer was missing. I was hoping I would not need it. I made a new push rod shorter than the OG one, but the resivior hits the cross member, and the pedal linkage hits the MC:
I put some nuts in for temporary spacers while I plumbed up the lines:
Also, with the second brake light switch on the MC and the spacer I will have to hack my pedal pan if I use it. I really don't want to cut it up. We will see...
Probably didn't need to buff this:
My son and I put the main wire harness in. We soldered all of the spade connectors to the wires beforehand:
My goal was to do everything I could while the bus was still on the rotisserie. We also put the beam in:
We decided that we still had some time last night, so we jacked up the bus and put it on jack stands. We left the front section of the rotisserie on for stability, and took off the back half so we could get the transaxle in:
We made major progress!
Lots of parts to build up the boxes and brakes:
Always remember:
Put the stub axle in before the top outer axle bearing!
Put the outer stub axle bearing on after the cover goes on!
Put the spacer in!
Anyway, we still made some progress:
The other side is done minus the brakes. Maybe tomorrow. |
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npbusguy Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2006 Posts: 1658 Location: Budapest, Hungary
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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Great progress, way to go.
I especially like the overspray in the wheel wells, looks much more factory than if everything was taped off and had crisp edges. |
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Burlyhammer Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1693 Location: Great north woods Maine
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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npbusguy wrote: |
Great progress, way to go.
I especially like the overspray in the wheel wells, looks much more factory than if everything was taped off and had crisp edges. |
That was the plan. The bus had that overspray originally, but most of that metal was replaced.
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type2rescuemaine Samba Member
Joined: March 04, 2016 Posts: 336 Location: Maine
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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Such a visually pleasing picture. Hopefully we can put the wheels on this week! |
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Burlyhammer Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:36 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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type2rescuemaine wrote: |
Such a visually pleasing picture. Hopefully we can put the wheels on this week! |
There’s only a few parts left on that table. The back wheels will be on tomorrow 😁 |
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sgellis Samba Member
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Burlyhammer Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2019 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: 1963 15 Window resurrection |
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sgellis wrote: |
Exciting times. Amazing transformation! |
Totally! My parts pile is starting to shrink.
Thanks Stan. |
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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