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Eric&Barb
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 Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 5:04 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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Get the grommets for the cables where they pass thru the fire wall. Sharp metal edge will work thru insulation.
Adjust the RH rear brake line support so it will not cut that line...
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zuggbug
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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AS350driver
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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Stuck at work tonight, but my friend worked on dressing the motor back up for reinstallation and happened to drain the transmission. Surprisingly, what appeared to be auto transmission fluid came out. Could gear oil have broken down and resemble automatic tranny fluid in 17 years of inactivity?
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plane_ben
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:27 am Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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That looks thick. AFT would flow out and soak into concrete real quick. Looks like clean hypoid with only a few hundred miles on it. I'd still drain and replace it.
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Dewayne 
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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Another thought.. One of the few makers of straight GL-4 year oil is Redline. That looks like their MTL gear oil... good stuff but expensive. When replacing the gear oil, DON"T use anything other than GL-4. Anything else will not allow the syncros to do their thing properly and you will be having hard shifting and scratchy shifting.
Others amy have thoughts on subject, but this has been my experience...
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srfndoc
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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| Dewayne wrote: |
Another thought.. One of the few makers of straight GL-4 year oil is Redline. That looks like their MTL gear oil... good stuff but expensive. When replacing the gear oil, DON"T use anything other than GL-4. Anything else will not allow the syncros to do their thing properly and you will be having hard shifting and scratchy shifting.
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Oh sure, bring the GL-4/GL-5 hoard in here. I've only ever used GL-5 and never had an issue. This is the same gear oil my rebuilder (Rancho) recommends. 
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2...start=1080
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67_SO42
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 2:47 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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That pic was taken right when it hit the floor.
Its spread out thin now.
looks like ATF.
Ill drain and report.
Might play on it tonight.
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Abscate
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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I think ATF was used in cold climates? Whats the history on the Bus - did it ever live up North?
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AS350driver
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| Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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| Definitely not, its a San Diego, then somewhere in southern New Mexico, then Tucson bus since 1995. |
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AS350driver
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:24 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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The fuel tank appeared to be in such good shape that it was simply cleaned and reused, with a new petcock, fuel hose , and sender seal.
The fuel tank is in and the engine runs nice after its 17 year hibernation, but the tank is now having second thoughts.... 
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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Scary!! One spark and poof.... Did you install the body to gas tank seal in that area?
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Malokin Martin
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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| So did you use Gl 4 or 5? |
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67_SO42
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:16 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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| Scary!! One spark and poof.... Did you install the body to gas tank seal in that area? |
No, however, Ive never had an issue with it not being there.
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67_SO42
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:17 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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| Malokin Martin wrote: |
| So did you use Gl 4 or 5? |
Firmly believe that this is ATF. There was only a quart in the tranny. Still have to drain the RGB's
been swamped
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Eric&Barb
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:21 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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| Scary!! One spark and poof.... Did you install the body to gas tank seal in that area? |
No, however, Ive never had an issue with it not being there. |
It does help to keep that area from collecting all sorts of debris from being sucked up into there, and collecting under the tank where in turn it can cause rust.
Just got to see a low rust Arizona Deluxe that rats set up house in front of the tank causing a hole to rust out in the front of the tank.
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AS350driver
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| Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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Got an emblem today. It is mango, but too nice to repaint white. Just gonna go with it 
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BarryL
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| Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:42 am Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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| What will happen to the plates? That "R" sequence is correct for '65. Someone in California could transfer those although I have no idea how that is done. I can't get over how decent that bus is. Even the headlight interiors remain relatively unrusted. Will you go white on the bumpers eventually? |
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AS350driver
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| Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:10 am Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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| I'm going to hit the bumpers with oven cleaner and steel wool and see if the OG white is still under there. |
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GTV
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| Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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Try Citri-Strip first. In some cases oven cleaner will go straight through OG paint.
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paulsvwbug
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| Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:06 pm Post subject: Re: The Good Karma bus.....1965 Velvet Green Westy |
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Spent the day working on the bus. The battle against rat droppings/nests continues but I think I'm gaining the upper hand lol. The bus is back on its own wheels now.
First, the bad. The pedal pan had around 40-50 lbs of rat poop in it. After dropping it I had to lay on my back with the longest screwdriver I had, gloves welding shield and face mask on, and try to scrape more rat poop out that was still jammed up under the floorboard. Nasty!
Now the good, while under the bus I was just blown away how rust free it is. Here's some token dry undercarriage porn....admit it, you know you like it!! Lol
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Nice bus, amazing under carriage. What were your steps in getting the wheels repainted, look great |
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