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mgbguy1 Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:11 pm Post subject: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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Hello,
I am looking for the gasket set for my split case transaxle. If anyone knows where I can buy them please let me know.
Many thanks.
Bill |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69820 Location: Phoenix Metro
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splitjunkie Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 4094
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:03 pm Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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The supply of these gasket sets dried up about 5 years ago. _________________ Chris
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ZENVWDRIVER Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2008 Posts: 3340 Location: N.E. Oklahoma
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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I asked my parts guy at Bughaus.com and he suggested you try Rancho or KCR, both in California. _________________ 5/50, pastel green 11G - SOLD
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3foldfolly Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2009 Posts: 894 Location: Edwardsville, Il
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maskinmester Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2016 Posts: 51 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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It is paper gaskets which should be fairly easy to make your selves - any paper would do, but among "specialist" old sea charts are preferred
Trust the O-rings and seals are standard sizes which should be fairly easy to source - at least in Europe where we prefer metric system - it can in fact be troublesome for us to get imperial seals! _________________ 1954 Beetle - running - Went to HO 17
1961 Beetle in the workshop
1960 Beetle waiting for repair
1956 Unimog 411
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 9:16 pm Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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maskinmester wrote: |
It is paper gaskets which should be fairly easy to make your selves - any paper would do, but among "specialist" old sea charts are preferred
Trust the O-rings and seals are standard sizes which should be fairly easy to source - at least in Europe where we prefer metric system - it can in fact be troublesome for us to get imperial seals! |
Yes, they are paper, but the kit typically contains three different thicknesses of both the larger squarish shaped pieces and the round "o-ring" shaped pieces.
Once you have determined the needed preload, it's the correct combination of the two shapes in the proper thicknesses of paper that allows you to properly set the preload on the bearing. |
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22665 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:16 am Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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Paper gaskets are probably the easiest to Fab in different thicknesses...
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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Abscate wrote: |
Paper gaskets are probably the easiest to Fab in different thicknesses...
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I have a pattern of each shape but can't find the paper in different thicknesses |
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maskinmester Samba Member
Joined: March 06, 2016 Posts: 51 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 2:04 pm Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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A little bit of Google and here you go.
http://www.allstategasket.com/info_gasket_material_style-1165.asp
Trust it should be possible to build the desired thickness from these sheets.
Even think it´s fair priced
/René _________________ 1954 Beetle - running - Went to HO 17
1961 Beetle in the workshop
1960 Beetle waiting for repair
1956 Unimog 411
30 old farm tractors and stationary engines
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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The three sizes of the gasket paper are:
0.10 mm = .0039"
0.15 mm = .0059"
0.20 mm = .0078" = 1/64"
http://oacdp.com/5054part/106.png
I've not found the 0.1 mm thickness |
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4572 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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Hi all,
I can't believe that Wolfsburg West can't keep these in stock, as with their resources and skills at reproducing the goodies that we need to keep our old VWs alive, they are usually on top of their game. Come on Tony, get this kit reproduced and back in stock at a reasonable cost, and we'll buy 'em! Not intended as a slam, I love WW and buy the vast majority of parts for my eight VWs from Tony and his staff at WW. But this kit has been listed as out-of-stock for a long, long time. While you're at it Tony, get both types of reduction box gaskets too.
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 11:17 am Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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BulliBill wrote: |
While you're at it Tony, get both types of reduction box gaskets too.
Bill |
Huh? didn't know there were two types. |
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splitjunkie Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:28 pm Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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Someone who wanted to make a run of these but didn't want to have to pay the tooling costs to build the dies could scan a set and convert them to CAD or recreate them in CAD and have them cut with a CNC laser cutter. That would have to be cheaper than having tooling made. _________________ Chris
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17290 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:19 am Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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maskinmester wrote: |
- any paper would do, |
Using any ordinary paper is the best way to guarantee a leak. Gasket material is manufactured to resist absorbing oil.
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hazetguy Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10773 Location: iT StiNgeD iTseLf tO dEAd
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:40 am Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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nlorntson wrote: |
BulliBill wrote: |
While you're at it Tony, get both types of reduction box gaskets too. |
Huh? didn't know there were two types. |
Small nut and big nut use slightly different gaskets. Between the two, the lowermost bolt hole (for the wheel cylinder) is at a slightly different location. You can modify the gaskets in that area to use them interchangeably, just be sure to use a good gasket sealant on the gasket and reduction box faces if you do.
Early (red gasket)
Late (tan gasket)
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hazetguy: invested?
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Peter_N Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2014 Posts: 321 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:04 pm Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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splitjunkie wrote: |
Someone who wanted to make a run of these but didn't want to have to pay the tooling costs to build the dies could scan a set and convert them to CAD or recreate them in CAD and have them cut with a CNC laser cutter. That would have to be cheaper than having tooling made. |
That's what I did some time ago. My splitcase was gutted before rebuild so I visited some guys who run a laser cutting company.
I was only able to find the 0.15 and 0.20 mm (.0059" and .0078" ) thicknesses of gasket paper.
They did a number of test cuts and adjustment to optimize fitment and in the end I cut around 24 sets
And hey presto!
I have multiple sets available still.
I should make an ad for them now I guess _________________ My 1958 PGSG project topic |
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splitjunkie Samba Member
Joined: April 04, 2006 Posts: 4094
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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Nice job. You could easily sell everything you have and another couple of productions runs if you were to take that on. _________________ Chris
You know, a lot of these scratches will buff right out... Jerry Seinfeld |
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4572 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 8:17 am Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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Hell yeah! I'd get in line for Split case transaxle gasket sets! I bet many individual vehicle owners would, even Wolfsburg West and other suppliers. Think about it "Peter N"!
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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hazetguy Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2001 Posts: 10773 Location: iT StiNgeD iTseLf tO dEAd
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Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:33 am Post subject: Re: Split cast transaxle gasket set |
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as a note: i have found that the tthicker nosecone gaskets / mainshaft bearing gaskets are seldom required.
wear to the bearing seating surface areas in the nosecone and case over the years mostly necessitates the thinner gaskets to set the proper preload on bearings, especially if the bearing seating areas are machined to make a nice smooth surface. _________________ thebucket: I invested in hoodride, now DBD won't return my call?
hazetguy: invested?
thebucket: Yeah Haze, its where people put money into a company in hopes of a return on their money |
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