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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

I eyed that VT Syncro for weeks wanting it to convert my 2WD. Know all about east coast rust and that it would not be trivial. Glad it's living on in another van! Thanks for taking the time to share what you are doing. Also not trivial!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

out with the old......


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....And in with the also old....


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I pulled out the 2wd front suspension, fuel tank, steering rack, spare tire, and cut out the three 2wd specific cross-members. I had stripped the Syncro steering rack cross-member and cleaned it and painted it the correct L90D pastel white beforehand. Very carefully measured and measured again and clamped it in place then welded it in.
A little more welding of the two plates to cover the holes left from removing the front cross-member and I'll be ready to bolt up the sub-frame and hopefully start hanging the Syncro front suspension tomorrow.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

moving right along....


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next step is to mount the Quattro rear diff that will become the new front diff. It fits very nicely through the hole in the subframe, no need to drop the sub to get the diff in or out.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

Pretty stuff. Is the Bay project on hold while you're completing this one?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

Mmmm.... Beefy! Looking great, Andrew!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
Pretty stuff. Is the Bay project on hold while you're completing this one?

I asked him about that the other day and my understanding is that it's on hold. Some wacky thing about customers coming first. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

tristessa wrote:
Zeitgeist 13 wrote:
Pretty stuff. Is the Bay project on hold while you're completing this one?

I asked him about that the other day and my understanding is that it's on hold. Some wacky thing about customers coming first. Laughing



Yes, The people that pay for work to be done get priority of my own projects. I'm really looking forward to getting back on that Bay Westy. Can't wait to drive it, that 5 speed and 1.8t should be a blast in that rig. It'll be strange to feel real heat in a '77 van.
My 1.8t Boxter is also waiting for more attention, just need the time.....

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 5:36 am    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

ledogboy wrote:
Mmmm.... Beefy! Looking great, Andrew!



Thanks Ledogboy, I'm really happy with the way this is all coming together. Everything lining up and fitting just like it should, I'm glad to be done with the rust! Front diff, driveshaft, fuel tank, and Quattro transmission and then its road test time!

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 22, 2017 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

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The people that pay for work to be done get priority of my own projects. I'm really looking forward to getting back on that Bay Westy. Can't wait to drive it, that 5 speed and 1.8t should be a blast in that rig. It'll be strange to feel real heat in a '77 van.

Yeah, funny how that works. Laughing The heat is strange and wonderful at the same time -- even after five years, I still marveled at being able to cook myself with the heat from the ABA/JH hybrid 2.0 .. and the heat also helped me track down every little drafty seal.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

Front diff is in place, mounts are all fabbed up.....


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Fuel tank is in place....



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The fuel tank was a challenge with all the hoses and wires that were up there. Once in place, I made up some straps from 2" wide stainless steel.
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

1" spacer for the drive-shaft.......


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custom rails for the drive-shaft, also being used to mount the rear end of the front diff, the center bearing in the drive-shaft, and the transmission mount..




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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

Wow, looking good!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 6:17 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

Hey Andrew:

On your install, does the Audi drive shaft centre bearing end up acting similar to a double-cardan joint to eliminate/reduce driveshaft vibrations?
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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2017 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

[quote="Howesight"]Hey Andrew:

On your install, does the Audi drive shaft centre bearing end up acting similar to a double-cardan joint to eliminate/reduce driveshaft vibrations?[/quote


I assume that's the reason Audi uses it. The Audi drive-shaft has a CV joint on each end, a U-joint in the center, and a center bearing.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote


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First road test! Not even a hint of any vibration, very smooth. The video is a bit noisy with a box of loose parts and windows open, but everything sounds and feels just the way it should.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

Berry Nice !!!!

Great job again, everything looks so clean Smile

What type of cv boots do you use on the outer front? They look like Dorman stuff??
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

Thanks ALIKA,

Yes, Dorman silicone boots on the front outers, and Empi silicone boots on the 6 other axle CVs.
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 5:41 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

Pretty damn cool.

I'm just about to come up on 2 years with your reversed engine/transmission set-up, zero issues, and this is a daily driver, not just being used for the occasional trip, I've put a lot of miles on my heavy rig (right at 5,000 #).
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

xoo00oox wrote:
Thanks ALIKA,

Yes, Dorman silicone boots on the front outers, and Empi silicone boots on the 6 other axle CVs.


I'm curious how the Dorman will hold up, I know VW switched from the early Syncro rubber boots to the hard plastic ones, that are very good.

I didn't know Empi was doing silicone boots?? Think For our vans, they are Neoprene boots.
Do you have a part number?

Congrats again on the great job, this truely deserve the Vanagon Porn award Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 6:16 am    Post subject: Re: A new spin on a SAH 1.8t conversion, 5 speed!, Quattro!! Reply with quote

These are the ones.......

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C13-86-9303K


Looking into it,I'm mistaken, you are correct, they are neoprene.
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