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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Wow, Amazing find! Congrats, Mate!

IMO: The Stock rims with the stock beauty rings and hubcaps ultimately sets its Awesome and timeless appeal!
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Thanks guys- The wheels were put on temporarily at first but the handling and looks have grown on me.

Took a nice 2hr or so cruise on some back roads yesterday- car is such a pleasure to dive and where ever we stopped it surely drew some attention.


Got my first "unsafe at any speed" Corvair comment but the guy quickly realized it wasn't a Chevy.


Did some work on the car yesterday AM:

- checking pads I noticed thickness was very different between inner and outer, upon further inspection I realized the pistons were not working properly and also the rubber hoses had some cracks forming. I had new calipers for my 71 and rubber hoses as well- swapped everything out.

-Changed steering dampener and also went to Sachs shocks up front.

- Replaced rubber fuel hose from tank to metal line. Had that German cloth wrapped stuff which was petrified- Used Gates barricade which handles ethanol better

- Tracked down the dash noise - the speaker (looks like a replacement) is not in a bracket like I have seen in photos- it was loosely screed with 2 screws to where the bracket goes I think. It is just flopping around back there so I need to figure something out for that.

* all 4 ball joint boots are torn..looks like my next project
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

That's a very nice looking Ghia! Congrats.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 2:41 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

What an awesome car! Congrats on this!! The Pedrini's look spot on too.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2017 12:45 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Congratulations on your purchase, looks like a lovely clean car.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 6:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Been picking away at small maintenance stuff

-replaced shocks
-replaced fuel hoses with barricade, moved plastic filter out of engine bay
-one of the fuel inlet tubes pulled right out while doing this so those will be getting tapped for barb fittings like my other 2 type 3's.
- replaced steering damper lubed beam and adjusted torsion play
- replaced brakes all around- did not do rubber hoses yet but will be doing that soon.

-swapped the 009 distributor for a 123 ignition unit VW-R-V. The 123 is pricey but well built and has 16 advance curves. Glad I pulled the 009 as it didn't even have the o-ring on the shaft and now of course I have vacuum back Razz . I had to heat the end of the vacuum tube to fit on the port of the 123 ignition but it worked out OK. Only thing that drives me mad about the unit is the switch for advance curves is located underneath and you must pull the unit to switch it which is a PIA. I want to try a couple other curves


Things I am planning next are ;

track down odd squeak from under the dash- when I hit a bump I hear it and can't quite figure out what it is. Wiper assembly perhaps??

Remove repair glove box which has a fist sized hole in the left side

take the car by a shop I found a couple towns over from me to look at spot on left rear, inner tire well respray and both hoods underneath have been painted black which I don't like.

Before long this motor will come out and be swapped with one I have that is ready to go. Its a 1600 with CW crank and ported heads
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

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Erik G wrote:
Yeah, I think I would run them too. It just looks right


Agreed. Looks better with them.



Yeah nothing too wild for sure. Now to just figure out how to get the rear center caps to clear without using wheel spacers. You'd think someone would have come up with a center cap that looks like the 914 caps but is a 1/4" deeper for type 3 rear axles. Fronts are on now and look good!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:49 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Erik G wrote:
Yeah, I think I would run them too. It just looks right


Agreed. Looks better with them.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Yeah, I think I would run them too. It just looks right
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Beautiful. I would consider keeping it on the Pedrinis. Maybe detail them with black. Pedrinis were first offered in 1970, so it's a wheel that could have been fitted when the car was still new.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Thanks Erik I actually like how they look too. Pedrini's are the best looking 914 wheel and the silver powder goes will with this light blue. I do like how a 195 tire feels as well Very Happy


In other news the scar on the left rear quarter has no filler and maybe just a result of poor prep when it had a respray which I believe happened in the 80's. still going to get it looked at and fixed.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Looks good on the Pedrini's
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:25 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Been doing very routine things on the car so far while I wait for this winter to finally go away.

Going through and made a list of small parts and things to fix. I am fortunate enough to already have much of the 'common' type 3 maintenance parts
Did a basic tune up ( this engine has an 009 distributor Rolling Eyes that will be going soon) Actually the entire motor will be swapped out with a fresh one I already have and I will freshen this one up. It has no Tstat and is just filthy.
Replaced fuel hose with modern type
Got 3d printed sun visor clips as they were held on by safety wire
Got a 1600 L bage for the rear to replace the incorrect one added at some point
Got some rubber bits and new carb linkages from ISP as those were really worn

Swapped out the severely dry rotted white walls with some Pedrini wheels I had in storage. I will use these till I get new 3/4 " WW and fresh caps and embellishers

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Looks to be a nice car. I'm kind of glad I sold mine before they became popular. Yeah, you're going to want a body shop see what's hiding under that bondo pop. Don't know if you're going to want them to look at the dent on top, or accept it as part of it's aging process.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

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A hearty congratulations on taking the plunge to score this 1969 T34! It's an impressive unmolested one that any VW collector would be proud to own. It has an extensive history that needs to be preserved too. Do some research, contact the previous owners, and document everything. First thing might be to order a VW birth certificate to learn more about where it was delivered originally. Those KARMANN side badges were only mounted in a few countries that didn't allow side lights. I'd bet the birth certificate will help clear that up.


Bet it's a Canadian destination car. Every one I've seen like that later than '64 had those badges. If memory serves, they are a Type 34 only part number- slightly bigger than Type 1 badges... or some design difference. I could be wrong but I seem to remember they are subtly different.


The only thing about a Canadian equipped car is that it wouldn't have amber tail lights, they would be solid red - i'm pretty sure, anyway,

Regardless - Awesome car!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:22 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

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honestly - once it's running and driving fine, I would take it to some high end restoration shops, and see what they say, see what they would recommend. I'm talking classic Porsche classic Ferrari shop. They will likely have an old man that knows paint like no one else. Bring that guy coffee and donuts and ask him if he does any side work


yeah solid advice- I have a couple shops in the area that will at least provide names of qualified paint shops in the area i'm sure. I really hope I can avoid having the whole car resprayed not only due to cost but I like it with some chips and dings so I don't have to fear driving it or parking it anywhere.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

honestly - once it's running and driving fine, I would take it to some high end restoration shops, and see what they say, see what they would recommend. I'm talking classic Porsche classic Ferrari shop. They will likely have an old man that knows paint like no one else. Bring that guy coffee and donuts and ask him if he does any side work
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

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that scar on the side is nasty. Honestly, stuff like that scares me off paying a lot for a car. Stuff like that can turn into a full blown re-paint for cars with no real body seams

If it's single stage paint (looks like it is) it needs to be taken to bare metal in that fender, as small an area as possible, until you get back to where there is no damage. It needs to be body worked below paint height, Then the best color match artist on earth needs to mix the paint. Then spray a lot of paint on the panel and color sand it. Probably light color sand the whole rest of the car too, to match the shiny

you really need to get it to metal and see how bad it is, which is not fun. Would be easier on a normal car with more seams...

not trying to be all doom and gloom, someone with skills can do it


Yeah I plan on taking it to a shop nearby that has done some work on friends VW's that came out real nice and get thier opinion. Not sure I am going to find "the best color match artist on earth" tho
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

that scar on the side is nasty. Honestly, stuff like that scares me off paying a lot for a car. Stuff like that can turn into a full blown re-paint for cars with no real body seams

If it's single stage paint (looks like it is) it needs to be taken to bare metal in that fender, as small an area as possible, until you get back to where there is no damage. It needs to be body worked below paint height, Then the best color match artist on earth needs to mix the paint. Then spray a lot of paint on the panel and color sand it. Probably light color sand the whole rest of the car too, to match the shiny

you really need to get it to metal and see how bad it is, which is not fun. Would be easier on a normal car with more seams...

not trying to be all doom and gloom, someone with skills can do it
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:27 am    Post subject: Re: 1969 L51K Chrome Blue Type 34 Reply with quote

Lee Hedges wrote:
A hearty congratulations on taking the plunge to score this 1969 T34! It's an impressive unmolested one that any VW collector would be proud to own. It has an extensive history that needs to be preserved too. Do some research, contact the previous owners, and document everything. First thing might be to order a VW birth certificate to learn more about where it was delivered originally. Those KARMANN side badges were only mounted in a few countries that didn't allow side lights. I'd bet the birth certificate will help clear that up.



Hey Lee,

the birth certificate is on order. I have reached out to a couple names that come up in the car's history. No responses yet. I really want to speak the the owner that had it since 2004- He entrusted the car to to the guy I bought it from named Scott but he really didn't know much about it, but had done maintenance on the car over the years for the PO. I saw older photos on Scott's office wall of the car so he was familiar with it for some time.

I'll do some more research and be sure to document what I find.
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