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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:09 am    Post subject: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

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Hey guys,

I was wondering what you think about the camber on the rear right wheel. Looks pretty bad huh!

I recently did some work to reduce wheel wobble, replacing the bearing housing, new bearings etc. Although I think that this camber problem is to do with blown our bushings. To be honest I've never worked on adjusting the camber - is this something that can just be adjusted, or is it likely to need new parts when I open it up?

There is a clicking noise coming from the rear and that is the main reason I am seeking advice today. The noise is only under power which leads me to think it is the CV joints.

I've scrolled the forum and tried the advice that I've found. The noise is only audible when driving straight, actually gets quieter turning either way. which is making it hard to know which side to tackle.

I've tried lifting each rear wheel off the ground and putting it in first gear as recommended but there was no noise on either side. I've tried injecting grease down the boots but that did nothing either.

Having trouble finding the CV joints locally and will have to travel to get them (in mexico) so I was just wondering if the noise could be attributed to something else or if it could be related to the camber mention above.

My instinct tells me no, as it only happens under power.

any advice appreciated
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

Is there any freeplay or wobble when you jack up the rears? Up down, left right, in out?

Are your lug nuts tight?

Personally I think with that much of a camber issue you're probably straining that CV joint pretty hard. Might be the reason for the clicking you described.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

It looks like the bushing on the diagonal arm pivot split or got crushed.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

Part of the camber problem may be from replacing the bearing housing, the four bolts which hold the housing to the spring plate have some camber adjustment to them. The method of adjustment is in the Bentley manual.

It may be a case of a simple adjustment to bring it back into line.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

Did you torque the big nut? It might have worked loose and your brake drum splines might have stripped.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

My super high mileage Bus is the same way, I'm guessing the trailing arm bushing answer is correct (crushed ) if you can't get any play out of it jacked up. Clicking is CV, take it off, grease it up, re-insert (wait ..that sounded wrong) or ..maybe parking brake lever moving about in drum??
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

isn't this going to be the new owners problem, or are you fixing it before you give the bus away?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
isn't this going to be the new owners problem, or are you fixing it before you give the bus away?

Nah, just another offhand attempt to get the community to fund/donate for the repairs. Or even a way to get you to boost traffic to his site(s).
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

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skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
isn't this going to be the new owners problem, or are you fixing it before you give the bus away?

Nah, just another offhand attempt to get the community to fund/donate for the repairs. Or even a way to get you to boost traffic to his site(s).


That's some pretty ugly cynicism.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

He's got enough seat time & wrench time (unless it was all staged) in this rig to know the basic fundamentals to at the very least jack the vehicle up, check for play in the rear hub and or trailing arm or to see if it's a bent trailing arm. If not, then he should stay far away from a wrench and a vintage anything. This feigned noob question is just another attempt at getting some attention.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

TDCTDI wrote:
skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
isn't this going to be the new owners problem, or are you fixing it before you give the bus away?

Nah, just another offhand attempt to get the community to fund/donate for the repairs. Or even a way to get you to boost traffic to his site(s).


right on. just checking, that's all. thought that was the case so thanks for the confirmation
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
TDCTDI wrote:
skills@eurocarsplus wrote:
isn't this going to be the new owners problem, or are you fixing it before you give the bus away?

Nah, just another offhand attempt to get the community to fund/donate for the repairs. Or even a way to get you to boost traffic to his site(s).


right on. just checking, that's all. thought that was the case so thanks for the confirmation



Isn't that like saying.... Shouldn't you be bastardizing some pure unmolested stock cream puff with a Jap motor?

Or what has the site come to when a simple question is answered with tripe cynicism from the brow beating NAZI program?

Just saying is all. There is always another side to the coin dickheads. Sorry, I know Im an asshole.... bejesus did it again, Im sorry. Rolling Eyes

Look my post caused several more people than usual to look! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

Ben, try what the other posters have suggested. Loosen the torsion plate bolts and follow the Bentley procedure to gain as much positive camber as you can.

Check the bushing on that radius arm to see if it's worn out.

Question, When you changed the rear wheel bearing housing, did you get the rear aligned? I'm going to say no or they would have caught the negative camber and tried to get it adjusted out as much as possible. If you didn't, you need to get it checked. When you loosened up and removed the bearing housing, it will change not only your camber but also your toe in/out and tracking.

If it's off a fair amount, you will incur tire wear, poor handling and tracking. The bus won't go straight down the road in extreme examples.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 1:21 am    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

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Ben, try what the other posters have suggested. Loosen the torsion plate bolts and follow the Bentley procedure to gain as much positive camber as you can.

This adjustment affects toe in/out not camber.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

TDCTDI wrote:
wcfvw69 wrote:
Ben, try what the other posters have suggested. Loosen the torsion plate bolts and follow the Bentley procedure to gain as much positive camber as you can.

This adjustment affects toe in/out not camber.


Maybe you should get out your Bentley and do a little reading before posting?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

TDCTDI wrote:
wcfvw69 wrote:
Ben, try what the other posters have suggested. Loosen the torsion plate bolts and follow the Bentley procedure to gain as much positive camber as you can.

This adjustment affects toe in/out not camber.


It does both though there's not a tremendous amount of camber to be gained there. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

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Isn't that like saying.... Shouldn't you be bastardizing some pure unmolested stock cream puff with a Jap motor?


yes....it's exactly like that. and you fine folks out there in sambaland are going to have a fucking stroke on my next build thread Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:23 am    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

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notchboy wrote:



Isn't that like saying.... Shouldn't you be bastardizing some pure unmolested stock cream puff with a Jap motor?


yes....it's exactly like that. and you fine folks out there in sambaland are going to have a fucking stroke on my next build thread Very Happy



And Ill be the first one to tell the a-hole that makes a comment that any bus on the road is better than no bus Wink Reguardless of its shit welds, diesel motor or battery door Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

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or battery door Laughing


pfft....battery doors are sooo 2014. battery corner hinged at the belt line is where it's at. and all this time I thought you were so in tune with what's hot Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:35 am    Post subject: Re: Is my wheel going to fall off (bad Camber and clicking noise) Reply with quote

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or battery door Laughing


pfft....battery doors are sooo 2014. battery corner hinged at the belt line is where it's at. and all this time I thought you were so in tune with what's hot Laughing


Be on the lookout for neon speed holes. Im putting my stock in those Wink
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