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jecstl
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 Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:35 am Post subject: type 3 full auto |
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anyone know where to get the cable for the auto mine broke
also idea on why
thanks for your help |
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marchi
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I think i got mine from bill and steves in cali. it was around $50'ish for a used as nobody makes them yet (as i was told)
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Russ Wolfe
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I should have a couple. One is still in a car. The other is someplace in the shop.
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jac harnett
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| Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:56 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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| I did not take this car apart, now trying to fix someone else's work. They pulled the shifter cable with the outer casing. I just can not find the way the cable goes into the tunnel. I know the pan has been changed, could it be a standard and not have an opening? |
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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| jac harnett wrote: |
| I did not take this car apart, now trying to fix someone else's work. They pulled the shifter cable with the outer casing. I just can not find the way the cable goes into the tunnel. I know the pan has been changed, could it be a standard and not have an opening? |
The cable runs along the left side of the transmission, not inside the tunnel?
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jac harnett
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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Mike, both inner and outer casing were removed. The bently booh shows it going under the torsion tube.
is it posable vw did the same to the t3 as they did to the t1 in the early days. make 2 pans,1 auto and 1 std?
I have spent hours to find an image of some sort.
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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It does seem the cable must run in the tunnel to the shifter.
The chassis's are pretty much the same except the 4 speed has a sloped guide tube in the tunnel for the clutch cable to operate smoothly.
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jac harnett
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:49 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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Mike
I will try to get some pics too for you to look at if you don't mind.
Jav |
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:57 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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I hope you have the round fitting with a hole in the inside end that the inner cable slips into?
It's shown pretty well on Fig. 9-1
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jac harnett
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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at the trans end i have these
clamp sleeve
clamp bolt
washer
hex nut
bellows
The cable is intact
looks like I am going to have to find another car to look at. |
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Jason37
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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You can kinda see where the cable comes out in these pics. |
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Jason37
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| Posted: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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And if you look closely you can see the tube in the center of pan just before the subframe mount.
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Mike Fisher
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| Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:37 am Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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Lift up your shifter and you can see how the cable hooks to it.
So, now you know how both ends are routed/attached! 
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LowThrum
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| Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 9:49 am Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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| jac harnett wrote: |
is it posable vw did the same to the t3 as they did to the t1 in the early days. make 2 pans,1 auto and 1 std?
I have spent hours to find an image of some sort.
Thanks, Jac |
I also have an automatic car. Yes, I'm told they had two different pans, one for auto, one for manual. I have looked into what it would take to swap mine to manual, and it was discovered the tunnel doesn't include the shift linkage for the manual |
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Bobnotch
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| Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:03 am Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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| LowThrum wrote: |
| jac harnett wrote: |
is it posable vw did the same to the t3 as they did to the t1 in the early days. make 2 pans,1 auto and 1 std?
I have spent hours to find an image of some sort.
Thanks, Jac |
I also have an automatic car. Yes, I'm told they had two different pans, one for auto, one for manual. I have looked into what it would take to swap mine to manual, and it was discovered the tunnel doesn't include the shift linkage for the manual |
Yes some of the early 68 AT pans were also MT pans (a combo pan w/clutch tube inside the tunnel), but not very many (mid year 68 started the AT production). From 69 thru 73, there were dedicated AT or MT pans.
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jac harnett
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| Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2023 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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I want to say thank you all for all the help. it turns out my pan is a standard.
Now I can move forward with this mess
Thanks Jac |
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ibldrc
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| Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2023 8:03 am Post subject: Re: type 3 full auto |
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I have both auto and manual pans out back. Let me know if you need any specific details and I'll snap some pics for you.
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