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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
Hello. Always happy to answer questions. Thanks for keeping the thread interesting. Very Happy

The posted drawing and its dimensions where not used in the building of the Jig

Notice the measurements on the drawing of the body do not relate to the measurements used to build the Jig (drawing measurements are specific to spots only found on the body)

The *comparison of the drawing would need to be made to a body, not the Jig. Here is a example of the difference between the measurements called out on the body to those needed to construct the Jig.





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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:08 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
DONGKG wrote:
Totally awesome. The restoration approach is obviously high tech and every inch of the original specifications and dimensions of the split will have to be addressed by so looking on how your restoration process works. That '47 is in good hands!


I appreciate that. I do admit I enjoy getting the majority of the details as exact as I feel the factory would have strived for.
One struggle I do have is constructing authentic panels that were originally pressed by a machine. Some dies left wrinkles that are very difficult to replicate when shaping the panel by hand. Not every I is dotted and not every T is crossed but we pick alot of small battles but stay focused on the big picture at the same time. (Which includes not letting the scope of the project get out of hand, it's a fine line) I'm truly glad you are enjoying it. So are we. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:45 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
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Makes me think if they used the same methods on no6 when they restored it too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
WrennMetallWerks wrote:
Hello. Always happy to answer questions. Thanks for keeping the thread interesting. Very Happy

The posted drawing and its dimensions where not used in the building of the Jig

Notice the measurements on the drawing of the body do not relate to the measurements used to build the Jig (drawing measurements are specific to spots only found on the body)

The *comparison of the drawing would need to be made to a body, not the Jig. Here is a example of the difference between the measurements called out on the body to those needed to construct the Jig.





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The dimensions in question would be de, qr, c, b and a.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
^^^Those are found on the body, I did not use those to build the Jig. I will be using them to construct a Body, Not the Jig.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
I'm sorry if I'm not making sense. Lol.

I did find one reference for the Body dimensions on the wheel arch fixture we made. (Factory spec de) is 1200mm on our fixture.

I apologize if I was confused about the question. Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:16 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
I did find another cross over dimension from the late model illustration.

(a)is 599mm

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
After we set the riser blockes for strength and and to check for accuracy we attached the rear quarters today. We are very happy with the results. (We are still holding out for a worthy Kar to use to add more locating points to the rear of the Jig like we did the front)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 4:13 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
This is so amazing. I'm constantly in awe of the work that u guys keep doing!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
D-train wrote:
This is so amazing. I'm constantly in awe of the work that u guys keep doing!!


Dude. Thanks so much

We test fit the rear apron yesterday and again today. Here Is a shot from yesterday before we welded the quarters on. We Are going to get out the spot welder real soon

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
Using the basic body dimensions spec FU, we set each rear quarter to 1134mm from the cross member to the furthest bumper bracket securing nut.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
We set the riser blocks to the rear apron witch was 746mm just 2mm shy of the basic body dimension S.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:18 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
Prepping raw mating surfaces with Copper weld rust inhibitor

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
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Where did you get the rear apron inner panel?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:45 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
He removed it from an OG apron. If you look about halfway down on page two you will see one that they made for another car. Stellar work but he said it took a long time to make so he went with a good OG part.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
Here are the differences for the rear apron inner brace.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:00 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
WrennMetallWerks wrote:
I'm sorry if I'm not making sense. Lol.

I did find one reference for the Body dimensions on the wheel arch fixture we made. (Factory spec de) is 1200mm on our fixture.

I apologize if I was confused about the question. Smile

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Thank you! That is what I was after. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
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He removed it from an OG apron. If you look about halfway down on page two you will see one that they made for another car. Stellar work but he said it took a long time to make so he went with a good OG part.


Thanks Chris. That's is correct. We harvested it from a American spec 58. I appreciate your support and interest bro. 😀
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote
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WrennMetallWerks wrote:
I'm sorry if I'm not making sense. Lol.

I did find one reference for the Body dimensions on the wheel arch fixture we made. (Factory spec de) is 1200mm on our fixture.

I apologize if I was confused about the question. Smile

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Thank you! That is what I was after. Smile


No problem man. Sorry if I made that confusing and thank you for sharing more great info for this thread about the inner panel for the rear apron. Great info.
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