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Vinnems Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2008 Posts: 1183 Location: Simi Valley, CA
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2017 10:11 pm Post subject: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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Been a while since my last visit. Mainly came to post an ad for a 1971 Super I'm cutting up, but was looking through the ads at cars for sale and prices have gotten crazy! I remember getting into these cars fifteen years ago and 'projects' were at less then $1000, all makes and models. Now I'm seeing late model POSs pushing $5000 or more!
Has the well finally dried up? |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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late model POSs are not selling for $5k. Selling and advertising prices are not interchangeable. The well is far from dry. And '71 supers are still the rock bottom of the value chain. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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Yes prices for stuff is getting stupid. Well we did have eight years of nothing. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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René R. Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2015 Posts: 1711 Location: No. Calif.
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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51148 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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Vinnems wrote: |
........ fifteen years ago........... |
Imagine your suprise if you walked into a grocery store or pulled up to a gas pump for the first time in 15 years, why would you expect classic cars that aren't made anymore to somehow be sheltered from reality? _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
Please don't PM technical questions, ask your problem in public so everyone can play along. If you think it's too stupid post it here
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Keith Samba Member
Joined: August 15, 2005 Posts: 3634 Location: Brodheadsville, PA
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Vinnems wrote: |
........ fifteen years ago........... |
Imagine your suprise if you walked into a grocery store or pulled up to a gas pump for the first time in 15 years, why would you expect classic cars that aren't made anymore to somehow be sheltered from reality? |
Exactly. I love the "They were only $2,000 new" comments.... Well, that was several decades ago.
If your flipping out about the prices of late model bugs, do NOT venture into the split window bus classified section! _________________ Formerly known in the forums as "OVALTEEN"
"I firmly believe that some villagers from Botswana could probably build a better road than PennDot."- Splitty
"If you do anything to your car someone will hate on you for it. People absolutely love to complain and find fault with others. Don't let it bother you. Just live and have fun."- Lind |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69823 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:29 pm Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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busdaddy wrote: |
Vinnems wrote: |
........ fifteen years ago........... |
Imagine your suprise if you walked into a grocery store or pulled up to a gas pump for the first time in 15 years, why would you expect classic cars that aren't made anymore to somehow be sheltered from reality? |
Just because I felt like looking it up:
15 years ago was 2002.
Gas in 2002 was on average $1.36 according to Google, 2016 was $2.14
Grocery store:
I randomly looked up chicken prices, they doubled.
Anyway - Yes, prices have risen quite a bit in 15 years.
Supply and Demand at work.
Some people say VWs were an excellent investment over that timeframe.
I believe this is true, if you owned a nice car that required minimal expenses.
I sold a VW Bus in 2003 that is probably worth 5x as much now.
And I'm not talking $500 to $2500. _________________ How to Post Photos
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static Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2002 Posts: 1831 Location: The High Desert
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 2:29 am Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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I purchased my current VW (1971 Tintop Westy) for $950 about 23 years ago.
I purchased my previous VW (1970 Westfalia, very clean) for $2000 in 1979. Gave it away for free when I got my '71. (It was still running, but not as clean, but rust free and with a gas heater (). I just didn't have the space for it.
I purchased my first VW camper (1964 Sundial) for $460 and a pipeload in 1975. I drove it to Mazatlan the summer I turned 21 with two college women and a bag of LSD "barrel" tablets. (sold it for $600 in 1980)
None of these were exceptional deals at the time.
(And I remember when you couldn't give away 1972 Westfalias because nobody wanted them.)
Just a data point. |
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Globespotter Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2012 Posts: 1770 Location: Newmarket, ON
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Bob Loblaw Samba Member
Joined: August 17, 2008 Posts: 865 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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EverettB wrote: |
15 years ago was 2002. |
I find this the most alarming thing in here. _________________ sent from a phone using poor grammar and spelling |
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21519 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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Bob Loblaw wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
15 years ago was 2002. |
I find this the most alarming thing in here. |
Yep....this "year" thing sucks. Its actually a conspiracy by the calendar printing industry to sell you more shit you don't need.
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Mark Evans Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 1931 Location: Alsea,Oregon
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Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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I think the first 5-10 VW's I bought (back in late 70's-early 80's) I didn't pay more than $200 for any of them. 2-'57's, '62 ragtop, and then some. _________________ '63 Ragtop |
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origowner Samba Member
Joined: June 28, 2009 Posts: 90 Location: Chula Vista CA
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2017 9:09 pm Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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Look at the increase in Porsche prices. They are dragging up Volkswagen air cooled values. |
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APPLEGREENVW Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 2388 Location: Seekonk,Massachusetts USA
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vwinnovator Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 1555 Location: Still doing it in the back of your VW
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Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 8:57 am Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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EverettB wrote: |
busdaddy wrote: |
Vinnems wrote: |
........ fifteen years ago........... |
Imagine your suprise if you walked into a grocery store or pulled up to a gas pump for the first time in 15 years, why would you expect classic cars that aren't made anymore to somehow be sheltered from reality? |
Just because I felt like looking it up:
15 years ago was 2002.
Gas in 2002 was on average $1.36 according to Google, 2016 was $2.14
Grocery store:
I randomly looked up chicken prices, they doubled.
Anyway - Yes, prices have risen quite a bit in 15 years.
Supply and Demand at work.
Some people say VWs were an excellent investment over that timeframe.
I believe this is true, if you owned a nice car that required minimal expenses.
I sold a VW Bus in 2003 that is probably worth 5x as much now.
And I'm not talking $500 to $2500. |
I hear ya..
I sold my solid running driving 21 window in 2006 for $12,500 |
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borninabus Samba R&D Dept.
Joined: May 18, 2006 Posts: 4538 Location: Arizona Highways
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Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:47 pm Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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prices a re through the roof everywhere!
more money for less.
have you been out of the house lately? _________________ 88 Van WBX, A/T - 13 JSW TDI 6M/T - 2012 Touareg TDI Sport |
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nsracing Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2003 Posts: 9473 Location: NOVA
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Posted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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Prices are all over. It is not how much it costs but how much can be sold for and what the market can bear.
You can find 'deals' here and there. But one thing is sure -the cars are getting harder to find in good condition. |
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Zundfolge1432 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2004 Posts: 12467
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 8:08 am Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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raygreenwood wrote: |
Bob Loblaw wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
15 years ago was 2002. |
I find this the most alarming thing in here. |
Yep....this "year" thing sucks. Its actually a conspiracy by the calendar printing industry to sell you more shit you don't need.
Ray |
The good news though? Calendar repeats every 28 years but sometimes every 5 or 6 depending on leap years. You might be able to get a 1988 calendar cheap. This fact alone should appeal to cheap ass penny pinching VW folks. back in 88 they still did tool calendars with bikini clad models, I'm in. |
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Cali_Army_Guy Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2015 Posts: 2094 Location: Stockton, CA
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Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 9:24 pm Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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I paid $6,000 for my '66 bug in 2016. Bus prices are what's insane. I've just accepted the fact I'll never be able to afford a running driving split window. _________________ 2015 VW Passat Wolfsburg Edition
1966 VW Beetle - Sold |
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gt1953 Samba Member
Joined: May 08, 2002 Posts: 13848 Location: White Mountains Arizona
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Been a while. What's up with prices? |
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I was wondering what you paid for the 66 Cali_Army_Guy. However you have a nice car and paid to get a nice one. Unlike east of the continental divide you car would be like 8K. _________________ Volkswagen: We tune what we drive.
Numbers Matching VW's are getting harder to find. Source out the most Stock vehicle and keep that way. You will be glad you did.
72 type 1
72 Squareback
({59 Euro bug, 62, 63, 67, 68, 69, 73 type ones 68 & 69 type two, 68 Ghia all sold}) |
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