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jkallo Samba Member
Joined: July 26, 2016 Posts: 208 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 12:28 pm Post subject: Doing a transmission swap. What should I do while in there? |
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It's been awhile since I've done a transmission (like nearly 20 years awhile) so help me remember what all I ought to do while I have it out and what I ought to have on hand. I am trying to avoid realizing I need an X (be it tool or part) on the day of and setting the process back by a week.
My clutch slave is newer so I am going to leave it. Would you get a full clutch kit? Would you plan on removing and resurfacing the flywheel?
I disconnected the half shafts today and didn't have any trouble, but I will probably order a new set of bolts for that. Nice to have new hardware going in. I have the 6pt ones. Are the 12pt ones (with the proper tool) superior? _________________ I'm Joe
The bus is Gus, the 1982 Westy Diesel 1.6na
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Tobias Duncan Samba Member
Joined: January 15, 2013 Posts: 1391 Location: Taos NM
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: Doing a transmission swap. What should I do while in there? |
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New kit
Pilot bearing
Rear main seal
Oil slinger
Clutch arm and bearing kit |
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70coupyel Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2006 Posts: 1657 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:57 pm Post subject: Re: Doing a transmission swap. What should I do while in there? |
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Front trans mount and ground strap. _________________
TheAndante wrote: |
Saying that specs are different than dimensions doesn't make sense. Porsche specs/VW specs/engineering specs are nothing but a series of dimensions,sizes,percentages,measurements, etc. |
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=338946&highlight=
70 KG Coup
83 Westy Waterboxer |
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dhaavers Samba Member
Joined: March 19, 2010 Posts: 7757 Location: NE MN (tinyurl.com/dhaaverslocation)
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 2:40 pm Post subject: Re: Doing a transmission swap. What should I do while in there? |
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jkallo wrote: |
...I will probably order a new set of bolts ... Are the 12pt ones ...superior? |
Yes. Also best to replace the serrated (Schnoor) washers with new.
The washers are what actually keep the bolts in place...
All of the above recommendations, plus:
- new FW O-ring
- new felt seal
- check/adjust endplay
- new tranny input shaft seal (you'll trash the old one when you check the oil slinger)
- clean/clear tranny vent
- Rockford CV boots
Check it: Boston Bob Flywheel Video
- Dave _________________ 86 White Wolfsburg Westy Weekender
"The WonderVan"
<EDITED TO PROTECT INNOCENT PIXELS> |
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hdenter Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2008 Posts: 2754 Location: San Luis Obispo, CA
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: Doing a transmission swap. What should I do while in there? |
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All the above advice is good with one exception. Don't adjust the end play if it is out spec. Worn engines don't like that! Rather, it into account and use that knowledge to make a decision about future engine repair/rebuild.
Hans _________________ '79 triple white convertible bug
'84 sunroof vanagon
'85 weekender |
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9936 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2017 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Doing a transmission swap. What should I do while in there? |
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People here mean well but with your 82 diesel 1.6 engine van you will get better advice from the diesel van Yahoo group you are also on.
Mark
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It's been awhile since I've done a transmission (like nearly 20 years awhile) so help me remember what all I ought to do while I have it out and what I ought to have on hand. I am trying to avoid realizing I need an X (be it tool or part) on the day of and setting the process back by a week.... |
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6833 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 4:58 am Post subject: Re: Doing a transmission swap. What should I do while in there? |
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While you have free access clean the years of dirt off the bottom side.
Cover the rear axle shafts in the trailing arms so they don't get full of dirt sticking to the grease.
Check your fuel lines if you have not replaced the recently and check them even if you did! Maybe replace them with new.
Check the wiring harness for good condition.
Check your coolant and A/C hoses it you have A/C. _________________ This free advice is worth exactly what you paid for it.
There are seven days in a week. Someday is not one of them. |
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metropoj Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2004 Posts: 1343
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Doing a transmission swap. What should I do while in there? |
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If you still have the insulated blankets above the transmission, consider pulling it and remove it completely or at least remove and check for / repair any rust before it gets worse. _________________ John.
86 TiiCo powered Westy. |
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jkallo Samba Member
Joined: July 26, 2016 Posts: 208 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:07 am Post subject: Re: Doing a transmission swap. What should I do while in there? |
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metropoj wrote: |
If you still have the insulated blankets above the transmission, consider pulling it and remove it completely or at least remove and check for / repair any rust before it gets worse. |
I had no idea that stuff was even up there until I accidentally touched it yesterday. I was kinda surprised. So does removing it have any downsides? It felt like something that would seriously cause rust -- absorbent. _________________ I'm Joe
The bus is Gus, the 1982 Westy Diesel 1.6na |
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metropoj Samba Member
Joined: April 23, 2004 Posts: 1343
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Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2017 9:39 am Post subject: Re: Doing a transmission swap. What should I do while in there? |
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Downside is noise penetration into the cabin. The blanket helps keep the road, tranny and engine noise down. It also keeps the amount of moisture and rust inducing forces up ... It can (and does) absorb water. I had rust to deal with under mine.
Many tear it out and insulate from the inside instead with dynamat or other such products. There is a cost involved to this step.
I used Second Skin Luxury Liner Pro over top of Luxury liner Pro sound deadener. It made a huge difference inside the cabin on my TiiCo gas Inline 4 that uses the Diesel mounting components. I did from the base of the rear bench in my westy all the way to the rear hatch.
At the very least it is worth pulling back and inspecting. The job is much more difficult with the tranny in the way. _________________ John.
86 TiiCo powered Westy. |
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