Cell phones and idiots

[alman72]

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Utah is posted 55mph minimum speed from my recollection.
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[daniel5560]

If you are driving on a highway and you rear-end a vehicle that was just driving along, you were not paying attention. End of story. Dark, poor weather, anything--doesn't matter, you drive to the conditions. Shame that a nice split window bus had to suffer. I hope he is able to get his insurance to go after hers to get the money that it was worth.

[Randy in Maine]

Normally you have to use your flashers if you are under that minimum speed limit. I was thinking it was 45 mph out there, but she was asleep at the wheel not the bus.

[chabanais]

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[canes5time]

Look what this numbnuts says in the comments section..........

utahdiablo April 20, 2017 at 10:51 am
"Top speed for a 1964 VW Bus is 81 MPH, that being said, having owned a vintage VW bus, driving anything over 65 is a Thrill ride and in wind? Very thrilling….and no, a 1964 VW bus does not have Hazard Flashers"

[Xevin]

If interested

https://le.utah.gov/xcode/Title41/Chapter6A/C41-6a-P7_1800010118000101.pdf

I believe that section of the interstate has Two lanes going each direction. He hit the right shoulder of the road on impact. She should have been in the left lane upon approach after using her eyeballs to gauge distance. She was only going 15 to 20 mph faster. Doesn't matter. She's at fault no matter what
Lane.
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[Xevin]

[richparker]

Although I've never driven my bus in I15, I do drive my bus all over the southwest (Az, Ut, Co, Nm). I never have any issues driving 60 on any roads/highways/interstates in this area.
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[Keith]

Not a single comment about how a '64 bus doesn't have hazards to begin with or am I wrong and buses got hazards standard before bugs?

He couldn't put them on if he wanted to. So what the hell did he get written up for? No hazards?

I doubt she would have avoided hitting him even if he had them on. How the hell do you just drive into the back of someone on the highway that is moving?
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[Xevin]

That hazard flasher was covered Keith. But the rest of your comment is spot on. Bus pilot must admitted he was doing 55mph. I doubt the officer witnessed the incident.
Even so the law is grey and the officer in my opinion wrote warnings as a way of saying he acknowledged an incident. Maybe he had a bunch of witnesses at
1:30am in Middle of Nowhere, Utah that could confirm MPH. But I highly doubt it. Whole thing is a shame really. Hope she and he has a good insurance policy.

[Wildthings]

At 1:30am in the middle of no where she may well have nodded off for a bit with the cruise control on. Probably very little traffic at that time of night and the other lane was likely available for her use had she been alert enough to make the maneuver.

[richparker]

Flashers aren't necessary unless you're going 45 or under.
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[Gonzo1970]

11.16.020 - Minimum speed regulations.

No person shall drive a motor vehicle at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation or because upon a grade or in compliance with law. The transportation engineer may determine on the basis of an engineering and traffic investigation that slow speeds on any part of a road or highway of the county impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic and constitute a traffic hazard requiring the declaration of a minimum speed limit below which no person shall drive except when necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law. All such minimum speed limits shall be properly posted.

The takeaway:

"except when reduced speed is necessary for safe operation"


If I was to fight it, I would hammer that point home.. No distinction was made regarding safe operation (e.g. weather or vehicle related) Well, that and the minimum speed limit on that highway is 45.

I would hit that insurance company with both barrels... then reload.

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[Abscate]

There is no argument for anyone , anywhere in the US that 55 mph is excessively slow. If you aren't attentive enough to be aware of a 55 mph vehicle ahead of you, you are at fault
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[Randy in Maine]

4 way flashers were not required until 1966 IIRC in the US.

My 66 & 67 buses had them just to the right of the steering wheel.