ashman40 Samba Member
Joined: February 16, 2007 Posts: 15987 Location: North Florida, USA
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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Starting problems |
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There are a few reasons why it can be harder to start a warm/hot engine....
Heat soak - While the engine is running, the cool air from the fan cools the engine/cylinders/head. As soon as the engine stops the cooling stops and the heat from the cylinder spreads to the heads/intake/carb. The head temps will be even HIGHER than when it is running.
Intake flooding - Fuel flowing out of the carb after the engine has stopped collects in the intake and possibly into the cylinders. Ideally, fuel should NOT flow after the engine is stopped. But the following could cause fuel to flow:
-- Heat causing the fuel to "percolate" and bubble out of the carb and drip into the intake
-- Excess fuel pressure in the line from the fuel pump causes fuel bowl to overflow into the intake (check inlet valve)
-- Fuel line "percolating" because it is in contact (or near) with something hot (eg. head, exhaust or case)
-- Crack in the fuel bowl leaks fuel into the intake until the bowl is empty (or at least below the level of the crack)
Parked nose up on an incline. With the fuel tank fuel level higher than the carb (easier in the SB), fuel will siphon out of the tank into the carb and flood the intake/cylinders over time
Next time you park your HOT car from a drive, remove the air cleaner and confirm if fuel is dripping into the intake. Often you can actually SEE fuel dripping. Replace the air cleaner to prevent the fuel from evaporating.
After you've left the engine to drip and flood the engine (~30min), remove the top of the carb and check if the fuel level in the bowl is at the normal level (3/4" from the top of the bowl). If the bowl is filled to the top it means fuel is being forced into the bowl and it is overflowing. If the bowl is low/empty it probably means a crack in the bowl.
Tim Donahoe wrote: |
I’ve found on very warm days that if I start the car the way VW said to do it in the Owners Manual, I have little or no problem. |
Agreed.
Here is the '73 Owner's Manual page on "Starting the engine at operating temperature" (middle of the page):
For all those having trouble starting a warm/hot engine after sitting for a while... have you tried starting the engine while holding the accelerator pedal to the floor (no pumping)? This is basically how you start a flooded engine. If this noticeably reduces the cranking time then you know the intake is getting flooded with fuel. Some of the above reasons for excess fuel making it into the intake can be fixed/improved, but some are just normal operation of an ACVW with a carb. Which is why you should follow the VW recommended method for starting a warm car. _________________ AshMan40
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