GROUP BUY offer: Automatic thrust washer 010323161A in BRONZE

[ALIKA T3]

Aloha folks!

some of you have seen this thrust washer break like I did, the plastic becomes brittle: it turns from white to yellow.

I have the opportunity to have it custom made in a special bronze that resists up to 500°F, but for just a couple units, the price is outrageously expensive vs the $2 plastic washer.

If I can order 50 washers, 2 needed per automatic transmission, the price will drop quite a lot. I'm looking to see if people would be interested, ball park should be 70 bucks with shipping for a pair of bronze washers. I'm looking for a few interested people, and I'll keep the rest and put in in the classifieds, I'm fully aware not 50 will sell on this group buy .

The washers will be plain, no oil groove, I suggest to use a little stone burr and slightly carve 2 notches at 180° on each side, offset by 90° from each side like on the original part .The manufacturer engineer doesn't want to mess with it, but it's fairly easy to do.

Let me know if anybody would be interested in this initiative or if this is a bad idea?

Aloha!
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[flyboyaviator]

Let me know when you get them.

[ALIKA T3]

[flyboyaviator]

Yes, how soon that's going to be???

[ALIKA T3]

[ThankYouJerry]

I'm in if they come with the oil grooves for $70 shipped.
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[ALIKA T3]

[Tom Powell]

You might not need to have them custom made. Check these folks and see if they have a stock washer that might work.

http://www.phoenixspecialty.com/products/washers

http://www.superiorwasher.com

http://www.bokers.com/washers.asp?gclid=Cj0KEQjwxb...Alrk8P8HAQ

Aloha
tp

[pablum]

Put me in at 4. I'll go up to 10 if there are not enough takers and it'll complete the buy.

EDIT: sorry I had the completely wrong impression of the cost... based on what you say below.
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[ALIKA T3]

Hi Tom!

Thank you for the links, I've asked quite a few places, but not those. A lot never answered, which I noticed is quite common with US businesses. The economical situation is still too good...

After talking to TK, he suggested Delrin as a material, it will be cheaper and will outperform bronze. I think I'll look up this direction, if we do something, might as well do it right, and better than original, the costs might be cheaper too.

I got the final quote for the bronze ones, it could be down for 50 bucks for a pair delivered to your place (but like I said, I'll probably go the Delrin way now)

Porsche just shipped my washers yesterday, great :/ Good thing I stopped by my local VW mechanic to chat stories, he had bags of them in stock, I would have never guessed! I got 2 for free so I can put the transmission back together, it has to be done this weekend absolutely, but I have 2 other trannies to rebuild later on spare time. When I get my washers, I'll give 2 back to the mechanic

I found out there were 2 different white washers, made with a seemingly different material from VW.

One is from factory BRH1 and the other one from factory BRH4, or they are different batches in time. Very interesting thing to notice. We put them under the digital caliper jaws, and they measure 1.3 mm in fact. I will have to double check with my own caliper when I get to my shop one of these days.



BRH4 is more grainy feeling and feels more brittle, is stiffer.

This washer is a custom made one that my mechanic begged this other guy to sell to him before he could buy the last washers from VW. This other guy doesn't want to be known for selling these that are for personal use, so I can't tell the source. Notice their lack of grooves, so it might not be critical to have none since it's a plastic /metal assembly.

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Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget

[Zeitgeist 13]

I don't know if this is germane to the topic, but when I dismantled the 01M transmission from my TDI's donor Jetta, the only internal damage I found was this same spacer/washer. It was broken in several sections, but was a green plastic. From memory it appeared to be the same size and thickness as those in the 010 trans.

[ALIKA T3]

[ALIKA T3]

http://www.cascadetransmissionparts.com/09601mthrustwasherkit.aspx

Ok, damn, I have a Eurovan transmission I just threw away, I gotta go get it and open it to see if it matches
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Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget

[ALIKA T3]

So today I stopped by the old VW mechanic, he has dozens of automatic transmissions just laying open on the floor, on shelves, everywhere!

I also received the black thrust washer 010323161A, BLH1 like the white one that broke in my transmission.

I found a thrust washer on the pile of stuff he had, made out of aluminum bronzed. It is from an older 003 automatic transmission. ( 003323161 and the ones with tabs on the oil pump pictured below might be 003323161A ) All NLA and replaced by the white plastic thrust washer 010323161A

Here are pictures from Wasted Youth on the Bay Window section of the forum:
The Forward Clutch:

The Direct and Reverse Clutch:

Direct and Reverse Clutch

ATF Pump

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Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget

[ALIKA T3]

[ALIKA T3]

Edit: it looks like the conversation thread got cleaned up a bit above, but for cost concerns, they won't be done in bronze but in POM-Delrin

Aloha folks and a happy new year to y'all


For the Blue Moon this year, I just got the thrust washers made out of POM-Delrin.

I'll put them up for sale in february, I'm about to leave soon on a trip, I'll deal with it when I come back.

I have 200 of them but can get more
They'll be at $12 a pair with shipping included.

Cheers!
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Silicone Steering Boots and 930 Cv boots for sale in the classifieds.
Syncro transmission upgrade parts in the Classifieds.
Subaru EJ22+UN1 5 speed transmission
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=416343
Syncro http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4...num+gadget

[IdahoDoug]

Thanks for your work. I am in for a set. Safe travels.
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[wesitarz]

The symptoms of a broken trust washer are leaking or noise? I have a ticking/tocking that increases in speed with rpm. Seems to be coming from the trans but not the TC or flexplate. Is one just behind the TC seal so it's relatively easy to replace with the engine out?

[allmotormatt]

I will take 5 sets.

[ALIKA T3]