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Gypsymobile Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2017 Posts: 25 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 9:11 am Post subject: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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Hey fellas
My 03' MVW will be getting its much needed height adjustment (lift) here in the next week or two.
Attempting a DIY (hit the gong).
Much has been said to get GWs adjustment tool, so I'll be waiting for that to ship.
Any other tips or tricks to make this process easy as possible?
Pics or video would be a bonus and much appreciated.
Cheers! |
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Joshwa Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2015 Posts: 810 Location: North Seattle WA
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jjvincent Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2016 Posts: 1268 Location: Bethlehem, PA
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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Google: 1-1/8 deep well socket.
Use that, a 3" extension and a breaker bar. |
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Gypsymobile Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2017 Posts: 25 Location: Canada
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 11:37 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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Really appreciate the advice fellas - and pic!
I'll post before and after when it's all said and done. |
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gakali Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 448 Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri May 26, 2017 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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Start hosing down those adjustors with penetrating fluid asap. I managed to free up one side but the other side had to be replaced completely. I'm in rust-belt south-western Ontario though hopefully you have better luck. _________________ Why do it? Because you can.
1999 Eurovan
2003 A4 Avant 1.8T Quattro
1992 W201 190e 2.3 Mercedes
2006 W220 S600 V12 Twin Turbo 5.5 Mercedes |
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d-9 Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2016 Posts: 105 Location: UK
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 4:05 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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It is essential that you support the van on a jack stand while adjusting the ride height, otherwise the adjuster thread can twist off the bar and the van can drop on you.
Otherwise it's textbook stuff, spray the thread with penetrating oil (plus gas is my favourite, don't know if that's available over there), give the thread a quick clean with a wire brush, spray with oil again to clean, then adjust. I just used a regular combination wrench, think it's 27mm. |
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Gypsymobile Samba Member
Joined: May 13, 2017 Posts: 25 Location: Canada
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Posted: Sun May 28, 2017 9:10 pm Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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jjvincent wrote: |
Google: 1-1/8 deep well socket.
Use that, a 3" extension and a breaker bar. |
Would a 6 point socket work just as well as a 12 point socket? |
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jjvincent Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2016 Posts: 1268 Location: Bethlehem, PA
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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Pick whatever you want. I personally would use a 6 point. |
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Snowshoer Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2014 Posts: 41 Location: Marquette, MI
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:00 pm Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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Do the wheels need to be off the ground while turning the nuts? I've tried and one of mine won't budge. It seems like the whole unit is twisting.
Thanks,
Neil. |
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gakali Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 448 Location: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Mon May 29, 2017 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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Snowshoer wrote: |
Do the wheels need to be off the ground while turning the nuts? I've tried and one of mine won't budge. It seems like the whole unit is twisting.
Thanks,
Neil. |
It's advisable for safety to have the front end lifted while getting things going just in case you have rotten/weak threads. The vans weight may make turning the nut a bit tougher but if the nut won't budge at all it's seized to the threaded rod. _________________ Why do it? Because you can.
1999 Eurovan
2003 A4 Avant 1.8T Quattro
1992 W201 190e 2.3 Mercedes
2006 W220 S600 V12 Twin Turbo 5.5 Mercedes |
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57 Zwitter? Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 418 Location: Boston, Mass.
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:43 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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I went to adjust my torsion bars last night, tugged on ratchet, no movement. Got back and pushed with my 2 feet and bang! The top of the threaded T bolt popped out of the frame and the van dropped. Luckily I had a jack stand under it! Now what? I thought I would try vice grips on T end, heat up the nut with torch and try removing with air gun. Any ideas? |
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marshy11 Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2017 Posts: 16 Location: TX
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:31 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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57 Zwitter? wrote: |
I went to adjust my torsion bars last night, tugged on ratchet, no movement. Got back and pushed with my 2 feet and bang! The top of the threaded T bolt popped out of the frame and the van dropped. Luckily I had a jack stand under it! Now what? I thought I would try vice grips on T end, heat up the nut with torch and try removing with air gun. Any ideas? |
You'll have to figure out how to get the nut backed off far enough to get the hanger back in its seat. If the nut is stuck, clean the threads best you can with a wire brush and brake parts cleaner then soak the nut in penetrating oil. |
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57 Zwitter? Samba Member
Joined: November 07, 2003 Posts: 418 Location: Boston, Mass.
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:43 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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I wire brushed the threads clean, clamped the T top with vice grips .Put a pc of sheet metal between Fuel tank and adj nut. Heated up nut with oxy/acetylene torch, put 6pt 1 1/16 socket on it with air gun and it came loos ! Took it off, cleaned it and reassembled. Tried the other side with air gun and it adjusted fine. Maybe if I help top part of T bolt with vice grips to begin with it would of worked as it should have?? |
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marshy11 Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2017 Posts: 16 Location: TX
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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57 Zwitter? wrote: |
Maybe if I help top part of T bolt with vice grips to begin with it would of worked as it should have?? |
If the nut doesn't turn easily then the threads are gummed up and need to be cleaned. Easily as in using a 16" breaker bar and not having to brace yourself or strain to turn it. |
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Masta Shake Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2010 Posts: 198 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:20 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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My right side torsion bar nut was totally seized. No amount of fire, leverage, etc could get it loose. Ended up taking it off with the angle grinder and putting in a new one. The only way to get access was to turn it with the socket so it dropped out of the slot in the frame.
My van lived it's first 13 years in MA so I see stuck fasteners a lot.
On a side note did the Cave Van 1.5" lift while I was at it. Along with just about every joint in the front, brakes, and a wheel bearing. _________________ As a good friend told me when I got the Syncro: "Welcome to the an intense love/hate relationship". |
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Masta Shake Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2010 Posts: 198 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 9:32 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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The cut off torsion bar bolt is in there with the other dead parts that I replaced this month. Took about 5 minutes with a fairly dull angle grinder blade. Being that close to the fuel plastic fuel tank with an angle grinder was a little nervous for me. BTW I twisted the bolt out of the frame to get it to drop down to where I could get to it to cut it. This was the right side so it's between the tank and the rear heater.
_________________ As a good friend told me when I got the Syncro: "Welcome to the an intense love/hate relationship". |
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TChilds Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2018 Posts: 12 Location: Midwest
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 10:31 am Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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Why adjust the torsion bar? Do shops normally do this as part of an alignment? |
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Joshwa Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2015 Posts: 810 Location: North Seattle WA
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Masta Shake Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2010 Posts: 198 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Torsion bar adjustment (pics/videos?) |
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Also, per the GW article which I feel is fairly accurate, the torsion bars take a set in the first year or so and the front end sags a bit. This should be addressed or the van will bounce off it's stops over bumps. _________________ As a good friend told me when I got the Syncro: "Welcome to the an intense love/hate relationship". |
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