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rmengr1 Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2017 Posts: 43 Location: Ventura, CA
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:29 pm Post subject: Those dang bubble flares are all crooked! |
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Why oh why are all my bubble flares crooked. practicing 20 or so times with making bubble flares I have one out of twenty that is straight. Using a brand new mini tube cutter on CNF3 X3/16" brake line. I noted that the the disk that goes in the tube to bubble the flare is slightly worn where the press seats into it. THe last turn or so the disk will tilt to one side hence the crooked bubble flare. I cant figure out if its the cut or the flaring tool. Any help from a seasoned bubble flare guy would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
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IdahoDoug Samba Member
Joined: June 12, 2010 Posts: 10251 Location: N. Idaho
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Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:38 pm Post subject: Re: Those dang bubble flares are all crooked! |
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Watching this one as I will be flaring 30 feet of brake line in a couple weeks on another project. It has been 40 years since I did this...
Doug _________________ 1987 2WD Wolfsburg Vanagon Weekender "Mango", two fully locked 80 Series LandCruisers. 2017 Subaru Outback boxer. 1990 Audi 90 Quattro 20V with rear locking differential, 1990 burgundy parts Vanagon. 1984 Porsche 944, 1988 Toyota Supra 5 speed targa, 2002 BMW 325iX, 1982 Toyota Sunrader |
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djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32633 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
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JudoJeff Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2013 Posts: 1179 Location: Near Springfield, MA
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:46 am Post subject: Re: Those dang bubble flares are all crooked! |
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If you're using a Harbor Freight flaring tool, they suck, pick up an SAE one on eBay for $50.
Dave gave you good advice.... _________________ ________________________________________
1989 Vanagon GL Westfalia Camper, Burned up on 7/31/16.
1987 Vanagon GL Westfalia Camper, Bostig & Rebuilt, sold
1986 Vanagon GL Westfalia Camper, Bostig Sold May 10, 2021
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16883 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:47 am Post subject: Re: Those dang bubble flares are all crooked! |
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If you don't debur the line after a cut you will have the same result. The die won't be centered _________________
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dkoesyncro Samba Member
Joined: December 10, 2006 Posts: 983
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:37 am Post subject: Re: Those dang bubble flares are all crooked! |
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I have an OTC brand tool, I can make all offset/crooked flares too! Patience is the key and a good eyeball engineer. Clean straight cut, it's worth it to buy a quality tubing cutter from a plumbing supply shop. The cutter that came with my kit had a wonky wheel that would walk, to keep it from walking you'd have to tighten it to the point of out of round on the macro/micro level. This would result in a bad flare.
1) good clean accurate cut, de bur and macro chamfer
2) install into clamp, level to top of clamp plate, double check with a straight edge. Tighten clamps equally, hand snug plus...
3) put handle of line clamp tool into vice or some type of clamp(C clamp on edge of a table)Once level and tight, oil the line and flare tool die.
4) My flare tool was wonky too, it was difficult to center and get perpendicular to the line clamp. I'd slowly tighten and adjust my way until it was snug and true, proceed until flare tool bottoms out against line clamp at first glance... don't get unsure and reach for more leverage to make sure you're bottomed out this will make a bad bubble flare.
Good luck, I did my entire van on a weekend! |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5391 Location: PNW
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Those dang bubble flares are all crooked! |
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While you can often get away with cheap/poorly made wrenches and screwdrivers, a brake line flaring tool is one tool where it pays in spades to purchase the best quality piece you can afford. You will save yourself time, save yourself material by not having to scrap pieces of tubing that didn't come out right and most important of all, you will produce high-quality flares that will not split or leak. Not that you have to buy the most expensive tool out there, but I would plan on spending at least $60 on one. Also, make sure that you use the tool that works with your tubing size. If you are using metric sized tubing, use a metrically sized tool. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
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RoryGirl Samba Member
Joined: October 14, 2016 Posts: 785 Location: WestWorld Nanaimo BC
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Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Those dang bubble flares are all crooked! |
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Not sure if this will help...but I find adding some grease to the tool/flare area prior to flaring makes things go a lot smoother. _________________ 1991 Double door pop top conversion |
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rmengr1 Samba Member
Joined: June 11, 2017 Posts: 43 Location: Ventura, CA
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Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: Those dang bubble flares are all crooked! |
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Ok thanks for the tips. My tool is one I borrowed from Napa. I have concluded that the problem is the cut is slightly slanted causing the flare tool to distribute the force unevenly.I bought a new tube cutter and I was able to get one straight cut that i filed and chamfered. Flare was straight. Ill try the oil thing tomorrow. |
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