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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:56 am Post subject: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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Guys, Telford and I have been doing quite a lot of rewiring of these old buses. So much so, that I think it's time to invest in some proper color coded wire. Does anyone have a source for bulk wire with the proper color codes for Bay Window buses?
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:59 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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Doesn't come up under google. Do you have a link? _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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hazetguy Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:03 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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rhode island wiring: http://www.riwire.com/
go to "supplies" on the left
scroll to: Wire Colors, and Wire By The Foot
scroll to: Plastic Primary Wire and go down from there
they also have a nice selection of terminal ends _________________ thebucket: I invested in hoodride, now DBD won't return my call?
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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Thanks. I'll check it out. As for terminals, Telford already bought a bunch of original type terminal ends. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:07 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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Gary - I had to blow something up in a desert recently and found cost of wire in 2000 foot rolls, something like AWG 16, was about half price of small lots, just for reference...maybe 15 cpf? I think you spend about 30 cpf in small rolls?
Solids are easy to find - I think some of the specialty striped ones might be tougher.
I can try to find contractor, it was an online group in NV though. _________________ .ssS! |
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:13 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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I had to blow something up in a desert recently
Sounds like fun
I doubt I could ever use 2000 feet of wire so smaller rolls might be better. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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aerosurfer Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:15 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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Abscate wrote: |
Gary - I had to blow something up in a desert recently and found cost of wire in 2000 foot rolls, something like AWG 16, was about half price of small lots, just for reference...maybe 15 cpf? I think you spend about 30 cpf in small rolls?
Solids are easy to find - I think some of the specialty striped ones might be tougher.
I can try to find contractor, it was an online group in NV though. |
How big and heavy was a 2000 foot roll of 16AWG? Just trying to imagine the spacing needs _________________ Rebuild your own FI Harness..My Harness
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Chochobeef Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:43 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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Try here. Lots to choose from. |
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jtauxe Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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This guy working through eBay has a lot of options, including the purple-striped black that I need for the for lights:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261928513336
He was quite flexible on mixing and matching colors, gauges, lengths... _________________ John
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:00 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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Now that looks promising. I'm waiting for Telford to tell me what to buy _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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Abscate Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:19 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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aerosurfer wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
Gary - I had to blow something up in a desert recently and found cost of wire in 2000 foot rolls, something like AWG 16, was about half price of small lots, just for reference...maybe 15 cpf? I think you spend about 30 cpf in small rolls?
Solids are easy to find - I think some of the specialty striped ones might be tougher.
I can try to find contractor, it was an online group in NV though. |
How big and heavy was a 2000 foot roll of 16AWG? Just trying to imagine the spacing needs |
Pretty nominal - maybe 20 Kg/40 pounds? Hand carry, certainly. _________________ .ssS! |
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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jtauxe wrote: |
This guy working through eBay has a lot of options, including the purple-striped black that I need for the for lights:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261928513336
He was quite flexible on mixing and matching colors, gauges, lengths... |
Just to finish off this thread. I did go with this guy on eBay and placed an order for 600 feet of various wire.
14 awg @ 50 ft (black)
16 awg @ 50 ft (black, brown, white, red, blue, green, orange)
20 awg @ 50 ft (black, brown, white, red)
Telford said that there were so many different wire markings in VW's that it's best to just stay with solid colors. The price for my order was $160 delivered. The guy took my order and mailed it within a few hours. Great service.
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Mal evolent Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:49 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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What I really, really want is a wire striper. Put in Black, put the yellow paint pot in, set the puller to pull 6 feet, et voila: 6 feet of black wire with yellow paint. _________________ 73 Beetle Baja, Ghia front brakes, Type 3 rear brakes, 2220 ( 94 X 80 ), Weber Progressive, Bosch SVDA, '97 Mustang seats
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:05 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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Mal evolent wrote: |
What I really, really want is a wire striper. Put in Black, put the yellow paint pot in, set the puller to pull 6 feet, et voila: 6 feet of black wire with yellow paint. |
Wow, just thinking about how we work in my garage. If I had to stop and stripe wire differently for all the jobs we do we'd never get anything done. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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jtauxe Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:17 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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aeromech wrote: |
jtauxe wrote: |
This guy working through eBay has a lot of options, including the purple-striped black that I need for the for lights:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/261928513336
He was quite flexible on mixing and matching colors, gauges, lengths... |
Just to finish off this thread. I did go with this guy on eBay and placed an order for 600 feet of various wire.
14 awg @ 50 ft (black)
16 awg @ 50 ft (black, brown, white, red, blue, green, orange)
20 awg @ 50 ft (black, brown, white, red)
Telford said that there were so many different wire markings in VW's that it's best to just stay with solid colors. The price for my order was $160 delivered. The guy took my order and mailed it within a few hours. Great service.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/263037621951?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
Good to know! I never did follow through with the wire order, and I'm glad you did. Did you like the quality?
I would have to disagree with Telford. I think the striped colors are important. But then, how many types are you gonna stock?
I just need a few feet of black with a purple stripe to properly restore the factory fog light wiring on the single cab... _________________ John
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telford dorr Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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I would have to disagree with Telford. I think the striped colors are important. But then, how many types are you gonna stock? |
I do too, but therein lies the problem: too many color combinations to stock. As a compromise, at least I use the closest available wire color (no pink ground wires, or red spliced onto blue midstream, etc.)
That said, if you google for it, you can find wire striping devices which hold something like a permanent ink Sharpie. You pull the wire through and you have a striped wire. Used mainly in aviation work where the stripe isn't optional, and most wires are white base color. It's not clear how well this would work on dark base colors (black, for example).
If anybody finds a good wire striping device, let me know. _________________ '71 panel, now with FI
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:12 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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I use a solid wire and paint stripes only a couple inches at the ends using small testor's paint, and a small brush.
Someone about 10 years ago built a loom device, which is basically a series of plywood panels put together with nails in it. Each wire is woven from one side to the other around the wires, creating the full bus loom. One can use an old worn out bundle to place the nails. Photo below is a 914 loom from 914 world.com
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aeromech Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire |
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Did you like the quality?
Very much so. I'd order from him again. _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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