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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:56 am    Post subject: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

Guys, Telford and I have been doing quite a lot of rewiring of these old buses. So much so, that I think it's time to invest in some proper color coded wire. Does anyone have a source for bulk wire with the proper color codes for Bay Window buses?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:59 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

Doesn't come up under google. Do you have a link?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

rhode island wiring: http://www.riwire.com/
go to "supplies" on the left
scroll to: Wire Colors, and Wire By The Foot
scroll to: Plastic Primary Wire and go down from there

they also have a nice selection of terminal ends
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

Thanks. I'll check it out. As for terminals, Telford already bought a bunch of original type terminal ends.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

Gary - I had to blow something up in a desert recently and found cost of wire in 2000 foot rolls, something like AWG 16, was about half price of small lots, just for reference...maybe 15 cpf? I think you spend about 30 cpf in small rolls?

Solids are easy to find - I think some of the specialty striped ones might be tougher.

I can try to find contractor, it was an online group in NV though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

I had to blow something up in a desert recently

Sounds like fun

I doubt I could ever use 2000 feet of wire so smaller rolls might be better.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

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Gary - I had to blow something up in a desert recently and found cost of wire in 2000 foot rolls, something like AWG 16, was about half price of small lots, just for reference...maybe 15 cpf? I think you spend about 30 cpf in small rolls?

Solids are easy to find - I think some of the specialty striped ones might be tougher.

I can try to find contractor, it was an online group in NV though.


How big and heavy was a 2000 foot roll of 16AWG? Just trying to imagine the spacing needs
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:43 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

Try here. Lots to choose from.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

This guy working through eBay has a lot of options, including the purple-striped black that I need for the for lights:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261928513336

He was quite flexible on mixing and matching colors, gauges, lengths...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:00 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

Now that looks promising. I'm waiting for Telford to tell me what to buy
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

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Gary - I had to blow something up in a desert recently and found cost of wire in 2000 foot rolls, something like AWG 16, was about half price of small lots, just for reference...maybe 15 cpf? I think you spend about 30 cpf in small rolls?

Solids are easy to find - I think some of the specialty striped ones might be tougher.

I can try to find contractor, it was an online group in NV though.


How big and heavy was a 2000 foot roll of 16AWG? Just trying to imagine the spacing needs


Pretty nominal - maybe 20 Kg/40 pounds? Hand carry, certainly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

Try these.
https://www.britishwiring.com/
http://www.anaheimwire.com/
http://www.asapwire.com/Default.asp

Waytek was said to have the correct wire sheathing.
https://www.waytekwire.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

jtauxe wrote:
This guy working through eBay has a lot of options, including the purple-striped black that I need for the for lights:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261928513336

He was quite flexible on mixing and matching colors, gauges, lengths...


Just to finish off this thread. I did go with this guy on eBay and placed an order for 600 feet of various wire.

14 awg @ 50 ft (black)
16 awg @ 50 ft (black, brown, white, red, blue, green, orange)
20 awg @ 50 ft (black, brown, white, red)

Telford said that there were so many different wire markings in VW's that it's best to just stay with solid colors. The price for my order was $160 delivered. The guy took my order and mailed it within a few hours. Great service.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/263037621951?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

What I really, really want is a wire striper. Put in Black, put the yellow paint pot in, set the puller to pull 6 feet, et voila: 6 feet of black wire with yellow paint.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

Mal evolent wrote:
What I really, really want is a wire striper. Put in Black, put the yellow paint pot in, set the puller to pull 6 feet, et voila: 6 feet of black wire with yellow paint.


Wow, just thinking about how we work in my garage. If I had to stop and stripe wire differently for all the jobs we do we'd never get anything done.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

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jtauxe wrote:
This guy working through eBay has a lot of options, including the purple-striped black that I need for the for lights:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261928513336

He was quite flexible on mixing and matching colors, gauges, lengths...


Just to finish off this thread. I did go with this guy on eBay and placed an order for 600 feet of various wire.

14 awg @ 50 ft (black)
16 awg @ 50 ft (black, brown, white, red, blue, green, orange)
20 awg @ 50 ft (black, brown, white, red)

Telford said that there were so many different wire markings in VW's that it's best to just stay with solid colors. The price for my order was $160 delivered. The guy took my order and mailed it within a few hours. Great service.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/263037621951?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT


Good to know! I never did follow through with the wire order, and I'm glad you did. Did you like the quality?

I would have to disagree with Telford. I think the striped colors are important. But then, how many types are you gonna stock?

I just need a few feet of black with a purple stripe to properly restore the factory fog light wiring on the single cab...
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

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I would have to disagree with Telford. I think the striped colors are important. But then, how many types are you gonna stock?

I do too, but therein lies the problem: too many color combinations to stock. As a compromise, at least I use the closest available wire color (no pink ground wires, or red spliced onto blue midstream, etc.)

That said, if you google for it, you can find wire striping devices which hold something like a permanent ink Sharpie. You pull the wire through and you have a striped wire. Used mainly in aviation work where the stripe isn't optional, and most wires are white base color. It's not clear how well this would work on dark base colors (black, for example).

If anybody finds a good wire striping device, let me know.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

I use a solid wire and paint stripes only a couple inches at the ends using small testor's paint, and a small brush.

Someone about 10 years ago built a loom device, which is basically a series of plywood panels put together with nails in it. Each wire is woven from one side to the other around the wires, creating the full bus loom. One can use an old worn out bundle to place the nails. Photo below is a 914 loom from 914 world.com

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Looking to buy bulk wire Reply with quote

Did you like the quality?


Very much so. I'd order from him again.
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