Author |
Message |
Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50261
|
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:33 am Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: how tight do you tighten them? |
|
|
djkeev wrote: |
You will need a bolt,
6mm x 1.0 x 25mm +/-
I am unclear if a washer is needed, Any Mercedes people out there?
Dave |
I wouldn't think so as a washer would be just another potential point of failure, but will bow to the knowledge of a person with Mercedes experience. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16474 Location: Brookeville, MD
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
|
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:40 pm Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: how tight do you tighten them? |
|
|
djkeev wrote: |
You will need a bolt,
6mm x 1.0 x 25mm +/-
I am unclear if a washer is needed, Any Mercedes people out there?
Dave |
I'd put a lock washer under there, for sure. Would one of the fancy ones from the half shafts fit, Dave? _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
@jakedevilliersmusic1
http://sites.google.com/site/subyjake/mydixiedarlin%27
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
www.thebassspa.com |
|
Back to top |
|
|
djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16474 Location: Brookeville, MD
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
danfromsyr Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 15129 Location: Syracuse, NY
|
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 7:07 am Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: how tight do you tighten them? |
|
|
there's no need for a washer on the bolt on the pinch nut.
the spring tension of the pinch nut keeps the bolt under tension just fine for millions of cars of that era.
but if a schnoor washer makes you sleep better at night.. go for it. _________________
Abscate wrote: |
These are the reasons we have words like “wanker” |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22568 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
|
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: how tight do you tighten them? |
|
|
That three eared washer looks critical to me. Without it, the clamp nut places no force on the outer bearing race.
Am I wrong on that? _________________ .ssS! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22568 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
|
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:15 am Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: how tight do you tighten them? |
|
|
Enlightenment has burst upon me, Biggles.
Nice meeting you at Bug Rama, Dan!! _________________ .ssS! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50261
|
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: how tight do you tighten them? |
|
|
Abscate wrote: |
That three eared washer looks critical to me. Without it, the clamp nut places no force on the outer bearing race.
Am I wrong on that? |
You only want force to be applied to the inner race. I don't understand why the washer has its special shape. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bobbyblack Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2015 Posts: 4333 Location: United States, Iowa
|
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:52 am Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: how tight do you tighten them? |
|
|
djkeev,
Just got mine too, and as I had not looked at this thread for a week, I had not known that the clamp nuts would be missing the fastener bolt.
Any consensus on the bolt? Seems like a lot of back and forth on what I need to look for... I may just have to take the nuts out to Fastenal. _________________ '87 Westy 'Flossie','86 Westy 'R1','86 tintop GL - Subi2.2 'J2','83.5 stock tintop L 'ZoomBus','74 Karmann Ghia, '63 Notch |
|
Back to top |
|
|
djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50261
|
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: how tight do you tighten them? |
|
|
djkeev wrote: |
6mm
1.0 thread pitch
22 or 25 mm long
cap screw head, 5mm hex for allen wrench.
Buy the hardest one they carry 8.8, 12.9 ...... stay away from stainless, it is a weak metal and this is too important of an item to risk fastener failure.
Dave |
On a Bay (don't have a clue about the Mercedes) the clamping bolts were socket head cap screws. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22568 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
|
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2017 1:09 pm Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: how tight do you tighten them? |
|
|
Wildthings wrote: |
Abscate wrote: |
That three eared washer looks critical to me. Without it, the clamp nut places no force on the outer bearing race.
Am I wrong on that? |
You only want force to be applied to the inner race. I don't understand why the washer has its special shape. |
Yeah, but you need to apply force to both cones of the needle bearing on that Merc design. The actual outer race isn't getting force.
I don't get the shape either. It could just be a thrust washer _________________ .ssS! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16474 Location: Brookeville, MD
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
shagginwagon83 Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2016 Posts: 3786 Location: VA/TN
|
Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:02 am Post subject: Re: Front Axle Nuts: How tight? Alternate nuts? |
|
|
there are different ones for each side? i used mercedes style both same _________________ Brandon
"Jo Ann" - '83.5 Westfalia EJ22e w/Peloquin
Instagram @joannthevan |
|
Back to top |
|
|
djkeev Samba Moderator
Joined: September 30, 2007 Posts: 32433 Location: Reading Pennsylvania
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
|